A video would be VERY much appreciated, as it helps others track their PBs for certain bosses and compare them to the WR’s boss times. Also because it can easily studied and referenced for developing strats or techniques.

but shouldn’t be NECESSARILY to submit. A picture should be fine as it’s as much as a cheat safe for all other places, making it equal ground in sense of rules.

I’ve gotten 2:50 runs with this strat, and I’ve only found out about it earlier today with only about an hour of practice between my classes. Which is a huge increase from my regular runs. But I’m not putting a run in the boards until I get a sub 2:40 or 2:45.

Just watch KirbyQT’s WR video and what I said earlier and try to match his movements in the video. Don’t try it on any other boss other then whispywoods for now as that requires no spacing basically since you just against him at all times. Then once you’ve gotten that down and understand it better, try it on King dedede’s phase skip with what I said earlier. This will help you practice using it on a somewhat moving enemy.

And just take it from there and experiment.

I made myself a guide to the run on a piece of paper, so expect a guide on KirbyQT’s WR soon (it’s a guide on his methods, Not on how to do the bomb spam “glitch”)

Also expect a separate guide on how to do the air bomb spam “glitch” soon too. I just need to do more research and frame by frames to get a more understanding of it to increase its consistency.

Also can we get an actual term for it instead of saying “the air bomb spam glitch”. I saw KirbyQT or Demo get to come up with the name of the strat/tech. Since Demo brought to the forum’s attention and kirbyQT perfected it so well already that we can better analyze it.

I’d probably only be interested in big puzzle pieces and button only 100% runs to be honest. Like making two sub categories under 100% called

• File 100%
• Story mode 100%

However what I’m interested in what will be decided is whether or not a person doing a file 100% run will be able to submit the same run as both a 100% file run AND a story mode 100% run, or if they’ll have to pick which one to submit it as. since someone could get two WRs on one run AND the story mode 100% category might get flooded with partial runs from peoples’ file 100% runs.

Also since this is for new strats, you might be able to do metaknight’s fire flight thing that goes super fast in the long corridor. Will be very snug tho. (I’m also deleting any non strat comments by myself)

Now I’m pretty sure this “glitch” is happening because when kirby is in a neutral state of vertical movement (non sprinting) when you tap the attack button, without any directional input like up or down, Kirby first takes out the bomb. He doesn’t immediately throw it, like when he rolls the bomb when your in sprint mode or when you hold a directional input. Instead he holds it and allows you to take it with you and freely move around. Now when Kirby immediately takes out a bomb and creating a new bomb entity, the game automatically makes the bomb have a hitbox the frame it’s spawned. So Kirby can continually explode bombs as fast as he can spawn them. But normally you have to wait to throw these bombs as Kirby has to wait for the bomb to to explode and despawn. But when you do the Air bomb spam like in KirbyQT’s WR vid, the bomb immediately explodes and despawns the frame after its spawned from Kirby. Which makes Kirby able to immediately reach to spawn a bomb on the next frame. This will go on for as long as Kirby is against an enemy’s hitbox in the right way and isn’t touching the ground. So the order is this: Frame 1 - Kirby reaches for bomb Frame 2 - Kirby spawns bomb and bomb is given hitbox Frame 3 - bomb explodes (repeats) Frame 4 - Kirby reaches for bomb Frame 5 - etc.

There’s like more frames in between these but I don’t have a frame by frame replay, and the multiple layered explosion effects are in way. But hey that’s just a Theory, A game theory. (Sorry)

Also if your making a video to show people how to do the bomb spam, you probably shouldn’t have done it on whispy woods, as he is so easy due to his stationary position. It’s not hard to pull off for him and anyone can do it in a heartbeat without learning anything from it, seeing as all you have to do is go to the top of the screen and spam attack. Now a video showcasing the buttonpresses for say metaknight’s 2nd form as he’s preparing in mid air to split into two would be a good example as it’s actually precise and not well understood. It’s especially precise seeing as you do a hover bomb underneath him and then link it into a bomb spam, which is an extremely snug trick that is very hard to pull off.

I’ve mashed B and it’s been working fine. if your not in a sprint while your in the air, you not going to try and do a bomb roll. Instead you just take out a bomb, in which case you can just spam it. However this is very inconsistent on certain bosses. However, if your right next to a boss (for example buff king Dedede in his level 1 combo for the skip). if you pause (not actual game pause) or stay and place just long enough and make sure you’ve lost all momentum then do a short hop, you can spam it to your hearts content and it’ll work. However I’ve only gotten it to work on Dedede since his hitbox during the example is ground level and tall due to his held up arms. And I’ve gotten a lower king Dedede and whispy woods time then the WR. Will make a video showing this later.

That would require for every run to have a video tho. And it seems that most people are happy to just screenshot the end screen of things with automatic timers.

I made another one like this but with only knights. SO i might make put up that one too. I'm interested in what times people can get, my first try was a 1:21:38.01.

Getting tired of doing the same thing over and over again in Guest star? Why not try this little minichallege! It's basically the same Guest Stars but with some extra rules for fun!

Mode 1 - WADDLE DEES UNITE

Playable Characters (You or other players can only play as) [NO EXCEPTIONS] - Bandana Waddle Dee - Parasol Waddle Dee - Waddle Doo

Bot Characters (Characters you can assign bots as) - Bandana Waddle Dee - Parasol Waddle Dee - Waddle Doo Exceptions on Empire mode: - King Dedede - MetaKnight - Blade Knight - Sir Kibble - Chef Kawasaki

There are NO EXCEPTIONS for having allies that aren't only this list just so you can add an element to your weapon or a bot's weapon

There are two sub modes to this game mode

1: Death to the Patriarchy [Revolution] mode

- Absolutely no King Dedede or MetaKnight (Bot or as a playable character)
- Absolutely no Blade Knight, Sir Kibble, or Chef Kawasaki (Bot or playable character
- Try to never kill another enemy Waddle Dee or Waddle Doo unless its necessary to
  progress
- Always Res a fellow Dee

2: Death to the Infidels [Empire] mode

- King Dedede, MetaKnight, Blade Knight, Sir Kibble, and Chef Kawasaki can ONLY be
  a BOT but not a player
- Star Rod may be used to call MetaKnight or Bandana Waddle Dee, but after the boss
   battle with King Dedede, you MUST have at least ONE King Dedede in your party at
   ALL TIMES
- ALWAYS res King DDD
- If King Dedede dies and cant be res-ed, it's GAME OVER

Also if there was a different category for EVERY character, the leaderboards would be a mess to navigate. On mobile it would be virtually impossible with the GIANT list of links to each character's sub category. Literally walls of texts everytime you hit the expand button.

You don't see a different category for every different set of stars you get in sm64 in any kind of category. Instead you can do any star in any order, but the speedrunners make the most efficient path. A path that isn't set in stone as "your only allowed to take this path" but rather "you can take this path, its the best one. but do whatever you like"

I'd say no matter what we do, ban kirby.

theres been one for a while, It was mentioned in an older forum. but its kinda buried. Heres a link invite: https://discord.gg/HhPHjYG

Never really used these forums before, but whenever I stream my runs on twitch it always says "there are no streams of this game" under the streams tab.

OH DIP. No wonder my ultimate choice runs have been so varied

We could just ban kirby as rule. Also how are you doing this glitch??

So Chinese is faster?

i mean if your talking time wise, I feel Dedede should be a bit harder. considering his skip can be really annoying, but the magic elemental girls are easy. Just wondering why their so high on people's list

figured this shortly after posting this by myself after much practice and experimenting, but thanks anyways

I've never seen this before, but its not currently in the game (or at least that I know of). Likely Future Content