Help with Iron Boots only run
6 years ago
United States

My friend and I have been using speed run tricks in an attempt to run all dungeons without un-equipping the iron boots. So far we've made it to the forest temple and got the gale boomerang using the same tricks as any%, but we're stuck on some platforming that would be helped by the long jump attack glitch. Issue is, we aren't sure how wearing the iron boots effects the glitch, or what areas it can work in. We're right now stuck in the forest temple room where you get the boss key, and cant jump to the door on the far side as both ways to get to it a just slightly too long of jumps. I know this sort of question isnt what you guys are used to here, but we'd appreciate any help!

United States

This is actually a rather in-depth question, so here we go.

Firstly, if the Gale LJAs to skip the monkeys don't work, if you haven't set EBF, you can always try to rescue the monkeys and jump across that way. If ¤that¤ doesn't work, you'll need the Clawshot to reach Diababa. (Setting EBF means the flag won't be 8, which is required for the chain)

For the Clawshot, you need to enter Lakebed, which means either having done EMS and entering Lanayru Twilight OR having cleared Lanayru Twilight AND obtained, at a minimum, Water Bombs or Zora Armor (Clearing Lanayru also requires clearing Eldin). Any of this requires escaping the Forest, which requires Forest Escape, a Gale LJA. If that LJA doesn't work, you'll need to restart your run and follow the sequence below. (While you can BiTE to Kakariko, Map Warping is still required and that requires killing the Gorge Messengers, only possible by reaching them on the other side, which is only possible via Hyrule Field South)

During Ordon Day 2, with a sword, do Faron Woods Gate Clip Escape (Angle Epona against the gate and jump attack into the angle to clip into the gate, then clip out the same way you do in Ordon), call Epona again in Hyrule Field South, do Epona Seam Clip to get Epona OOB (I recommend safety saving with Epona OOB somewhere you can mount her again after the savewarp). You'll need to do some Epona OOB movement to get Epona into Eldin Twilight ¤without¤ entering the Twilight via the barrier. Now you need to kill the messengers and get the one-frame jump attack, then savewarp before you void out. Back in Hyrule Field South, call Epona again, clip back into Faron, and beat Ordon Day 2 and proceed as normal.

Now you can, after doing Faron Twilight (be sure to do EMS!), BiTE to Kakariko, get the Kakariko Portal (thus giving you access out of Faron via warping), and activate Map Warping by hitting the Midna trigger in the Gorge area. After clearing Eldin, you can Epona OOB via Map Glitch from Hyrule Field East and follow the map around to the Flight by Fowl door (you must transition the map for each segment while remaining OOB), where you can savewarp in front of to remove map glitch. Get the Clawshot and open the ZD Portal, then you'll have clawshot to clear Forest with and portals to warp where you need to with (and the path from Faron to HFS will reopen). Credit goes to Dragonbane for the route.

This is a rather tricky challenge to do with glitches. Best of luck!

EDIT: EBF isn't directly tied to the chain to Diababa, that is exclusively all eight "Monkey Freed" flags. Gale Boomerang breaks the first four monkeys, but for monkeys 3 and 4 you can still set the requisite flag (opening the cage door). Monkey 2 is the issue, with Gale the monkeys clapping after killing the bokoblins (which is the act that sets the monkey 2 freed flag) can't be set. So EBF doesn't directly hammer Monkey 2, but it does indirectly by allowing you to get the Gale before it, which directly breaks the Monkey 2 freed flag, required for the monkey chain to Diababa.

Credit to Dragonbane0 for the research on this edit.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
United States

Thanks for the help!

We've backed out of the forest temple and are following an old 2015 AGDQ video to try and see how they get to lakebed early, because we agree the clawshot will make a load of difference. I don't know if the strats we are seeing are outdated or not, my friend and I have never done a speed run like this before (it took us hours until we could get the sword and shield skip to work). That being said, I really appreciate the alternate route in case things go south. Out of curiosity though, would we still be able to start on Ordon day 2 if we use the BiT glitch to get the iron boots early? Or does this route provide a way to trigger sumo with the mayor before the forest temple?

United States

A BiT Save starts Link in the Faron Woods at the Faron Spring, and the game is on Ordon Day 2, so yes, the route is doable from a BiT Save. You will not get the Boots until Ordon Day 3, though (After you free Talo and do Goats 2), like normal Any%.

If you're stuck on strats, see both the resources here on Speedrun.com and ZSR, or visit the TP discord. There's a lot of knowledge amoung the runners for the game, as well as those who are more into the science of TP.

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