N64 Separate IL's
1 year ago
Nevada, USA

Hello, I was wondering if there was any way to get N64 IL's separated from PC. Also maybe even separating emu from actual console. If not no worries at all, but yeah, I'd submit runs and I know a couple other people I speedrun with would actually be more interested if this change was made. Something special about grinding on the actual console, forcing N64 controllers to be used. Easily makes the IL's more impressive (again in my opinion) to actually use the real controller, not some ps5 or elite controller on an emulator. Also, I do understand you can submit the times now, but for a 2nd or 3rd place time for most of the records, due to them being unobtainable on a N64 because PC just runs faster. This is okay other than the fact I would like to spend hundreds of hours on a single task on a level, to only be rewarded with a 3rd place time or something just seems odd. Thanks for your time, again, not a big deal at all either way.

Portugal
Super moderatorSolarson
He/Him, They/Them
1 year ago

The IL leaderboards are not very competitive. For actual runs, the categories are separated. Also just because the game runs at a higher framerate on PC does not mean that it will be faster as some Levels & Tokens are actually faster on N64 EMU or even N64 Console (Zurg). The only competitive ILs are the ones that are used for the Category Routes (Any% 30 Token/40 Token & 100%), they are kept track of in a separate document. Now when it comes to the ILs being separated by Console, I'm not opposed to it. I will say that once you're inside the Level there's not much in terms of difference, it mostly has to do with Buzz's movement speed (slightly faster at 30 fps) or lag (which is only a big issue on N64 Console).

Document with Competitive ILs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TS0WUAM6QZxvkpbonGSkdGLjMD8Mimc9X9wONsc15LI

Edited by the author 1 year ago
Archy likes this
Nevada, USA

Thank you for the quick response.

I appreciate the knowledge. Maybe I'm a bit of a Nintendo 64 fanboy when I say this but learning to cope with the lag and terrible joystick and still hit all the tricks is just sick to see, even if it's slower. I wouldn't say it takes more or less skill than using other controllers, they are just different and it's just player preference on what they enjoy the most. Thank you for sharing that document, that is extremely cool. Also, I've watched your runs before and you are absolutely cracked best of luck to you in the future, keep killing it.

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Portugal
Super moderatorSolarson
He/Him, They/Them
1 year ago

You got it, bro! I'm not opposed to the change. Like I said though it really doesn't change much appart from N64 Console because that's the odd one out in terms of Lag. Would love to see some runs (or ILs) from you. Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

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