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  MasterLeoBlueMasterLeoBlue
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Everything online is a reflection of something in the real world. They aren't mutually exclusive realms. I suppose my movie night example wasn't good enough. Let's say there is a club and 10 people sign up for the club. Now let's say only 3 people show up. Should those 7 people still be on the roster or no? What good are they there?

 
  MelonSliceMelonSlice
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That is also a bad analogy some times things can not be compared to real life or the internet and this is one of those things, people communicate and interact slightly differently online then real life. If I am feeling horrible in real life I can easily pretend to be fine online and no one knows its great. You asked for feedback and you got it no one here is saying oh no not at all we are just advising against it in part or full. Some people are even compromising to give you the same thing but better planned And seen as a lot of people here read and not talk you adding more comparisons will not change anything.

You can ofc choose to ignore everything here but then why ask for our opinions in the first place if you don't seem to want to take any ones advice on board? "I want to hear other opinions before I go and do this" why if you aren't going to adress this and only fight it all you can just end by saying thank you but I don't agree with any of your opinions and I will go ahead with my plans sorry. (Yes you can say this no one is going to mind) I don't agree with every ones opinions here but it is something to take on board I thought some people had really good points. no one thinks your opinion is wrong but you did ask for other people opinions and there views may seem wrong to you which is fine but you did ask for them, so no need to get defensive 🙂

(I ain't mad just putting in extra input 😊 )

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  MasterLeoBlueMasterLeoBlue
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You are acting as if people don't already act fine when they feel horrible. That is something that has always happened. The Internet didn't invent people hiding their true feelings.

But that is irrelevant. We aren't talking about people hiding their true feelings, we are talking about people joining a Discord server and not using it. 2 completely different things.

Also, I like how you say "It's not a good comparison" and don't even explain why it's not a good comparison.

The reason I am becoming frustrated is because nobody is giving me an informed opinion. It seems as though people are misinterpreting my main point. I'm not talking about people who actively read messages but don' post anything. That was never a part of this. I am talking about people who join and NEVER POST AND NEVER LOOK. But yet I get comment after comment of people not understanding that.

 
  MelonSliceMelonSlice
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Dude it is a lot harder for me to hide in RL then on line that was my point. And I did say why my analogy wasin releation to the differences read between the lines. "some times things can not be compared to real life or the internet and this is one of those things, people communicate and interact slightly differently online then real life." Aka in real life you can't just read a convo people can see you etc etc many reasons why it is different.

Dude how is removing people after not talking going to distinguish between the two? People mentioned it because it is a big flaw in the system you proposed it is an informed opinion. One based on what you wrote. Unlike you seem to be I hate pointless internet arguments and it feels like I am talking to a brick wall. Btw the best opinion and most comprehensive informed opinion here is Timmiluvs he has the best points and exper not to put any other points down just this my was my favourite. Hopefully you have a good day.

 
  starsmileystarsmiley

How do you know if someone never looks? They're called lurkers for a reason.

 
  MasterLeoBlueMasterLeoBlue

That's why I proposed the Lurker test. Pay attention.

 
  MelonSliceMelonSlice

And in Timmiluvs post and in others they adresses this pay attention

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  starsmileystarsmiley

Except the role prevents them from deciding to speak if they suddenly choose to do so. What are you going to do, have them DM you to give them the role and then remove it if they go a long time without talking again?

I agree with the above statements. It seems like you're going through an arduous effort to categorize people who are active/inactive. If people wanna talk, they'll talk. Going through all this effort only turns people away from joining altogether.

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  MasterLeoBlueMasterLeoBlue

Timmiluvs' opinion comes from his experience as a full time worker. That is hardly a good representation of all Discord users. I didn't ask for your personal anecdote or why you personally don't post often. Also his explanations only refer to people who don't talk yet read. Completely irrelevant and hardly an informed opinion. Just because his post has a lot of likes doesn't mean jack shit, I'm sorry.

I read every one of these responses and not a single one hit the mark. I told you I would take your opinions into consideration and I did. And I am considering doing nothing as a result of them because none of them made any sense and sounded more defensive and accusatory than helpful.

Also, Timmiluvs brings up that I'm making it seem like it's a privilege to be in my personal discord. And yes, it will. I am putting a ton of thought into this and am going to make it the best place to be. A place that getting kicked out would cause people to crawl back and beg to be in. The only reason he made it seem like my Discord wasn't anything special was because he doesn't know what I have planned.

 
  TimmiluvsTimmiluvs
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This is going to be blunt because now I’m annoyed at your attitude in this thread.

People have given you plenty of opinions - opinions that all of your ideas aren’t that good because they are rude and will stifle any attraction to your personal discord because new people won’t feel welcomed. Not sure how you can say nobody is giving you opinions when that’s pretty much all you’ve gotten so far. People have even gone as far as to suggest different methods of encouraging people to talk that doesn’t involve a threat of a kick.

The problem is that you apparently have already made up your mind and instead of taking anything anyone has said here into consideration (seriously, how hard would it be to nicely DM a lurker and ask them their opinion on your discord instead of just kicking them?) you’re just rambling with the arrogant idea that your discord needs to be an exclusive place. To say none of our opinions “hit the mark” implies that you were/are just looking for people to agree with your ideas.

If you’re not going to listen to anyone’s opinions then why did you start this thread in the first place or why are you even still here talking about it? If you want to treat your discord as an exclusive club that only includes people who talk, then go get affiliate/partner on twitch and only invite your subs. That should solve all your problems because subs should be interested, right?

No discord is more special than another, thinking yours would be is just arrogant, if there are special/exclusive discords then they are probably nothing more than a circle jerk that ostracizes anyone else for being different or not sharing the same views as them.

Again, if you already had all these grand plans for the greatest most exclusive discord, why even create this thread and ask anyone what they think? All while taking issue with everyone who has criticized your idea with their own opinions on the matter.

That’s all I have to say on this because clearly your mind won’t be changed by anyone’s opinions, personal anecdotes or ideas that aren’t your own on this matter.

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  LivLiv
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From what you've said in your post you seem pretty invested in your idea and seem to believe it will work and cause a lot of discourse in your discord, or at least encourage more of it. If you feel strongly about it, just do it. If it fails, well, you learned a lesson and your idea wasn't really that good, but if it doesn't?

It's a bizarre idea from my perspective. Lack of discourse could possibly come down to an oversaturation of discord servers that those users have joined.

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  MasterLeoBlueMasterLeoBlue

A common problem I see all over the Internet is an inability to listen. I have taken every single opinion into consideration. However, none of them have had any good advice. I know you like to think that your opinion should be weighed the same as everyone else's, but there are some opinions that are obviously worthless.

To make someone stay is to take away. This is why so many Discord servers fail. It's because every server is essentially the same thing. You have a rules page that is the same one you see copy and pasted everywhere, you have the same "general" and 'off-topic" text channels and occasionally a text channel for "memes". These staples of servers are why they are disposable. Nobody cares to look at one in particular because there are 1000 like it. My server will break all convention. A truly progressive and unique experience.

None of you are on this same wavelength. You assume that this server will be like the ones you are a part of. And this is what I mean by none of your opinions "hit the mark". None of you comprehend yet what is in store. And that's fine. I was open to having my opinion changed, it's just nobody provided anything extraordinary.

 
  SklitterbeerSklitterbeer

sorry but you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

I have ~15 people in my discord and they all stay and VC sometimes but rarely chat (which is fine!) even though it's a generic server because they're my friends I made through various communities since i didn't want to lose contact with all of them. just making a server for yourself without any real motive will fail regardless if you kick people out after 7 days cause if not a lot of people will come in the first place, then kicking half (or more) is not a good idea, since they won't want to rejoin afterwards. also, maybe try to consider some opinions instead of calling to your own echo chamber, maybe somebody will actually want to join or talk to you

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  LivLiv
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If there is any user left in the discord channel 2-3 months after its inception, or if you are alone because everyone has been kicked, it'll be interesting to see what kind of conversations you have going in it.

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  SeydieSeydie

Hey, it's your discord server, you can make the rules ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But I would never join such channel, it seems really annoying.
Like someone keeps track when my last message was posted. It seems a bit like a control freak imo.

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  drgrumbledrgrumble

"..this is what I mean by none of your opinions "hit the mark". None of you comprehend yet what is in store."

If your unique plans for the channel were key to understanding the question posed in your OP, but you did nothing to explain what those plans are, why are you now angry that people are not giving you 'the right opinions' (a contradiction in terms)?

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  MelonSliceMelonSlice

This is the most wrong thing you have said "there are some opinions that are obviously worthless." In a case like this no bodys opinion is wrong is fact we are all correct you can not have a wrong opinion about a topic like this. But I guess you are one of those people who think only you are correct? Because according to you an opinion can be wrong when you asked for opinions lol how do you not see your hypocrisy.

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  JulzJulz

I think you should just leave it. If people want to talk, they can talk. Forcing people to speak won't help. Imagine if we were forced to post on the forums once a week otherwise we would be banned. It leads to talking for the sake of talking.

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  TimmiluvsTimmiluvs

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None of you are on this same wavelength

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None of you comprehend yet what is in store

What level of expanding brain is this

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  CasssssCasssss

^ tbh I read those parts and thought it must be a spoof account