Another attempt at skipping dialogue scenes
6 years ago
France

I'm just sharing some researches (most of which led to nothing for the moment)

So, the purpose is to manipulate the game so that it allows the player to move at times he shouldn't be able to.

It revolves around the 'walk' command. I'm not talking about the key for walking, I'm talking about what happens when you type "walk" in the console.

If you were using "fly" or "ghost", you will land back on earth, but also when 38 is immobilized to witness a dialogue scene, it will allow him to move normally.

So I suppose that on the game side that's what happens, first it gives you a "frozen" state, then unlock it by giving a "walk" input.

Now, if we want to use this in a run, we have to find how to manipulate the game so it grants us the "walk" effect when it shouldn't, whithout typing it in the console (or that's just cheating)

There are other circumstances under which "walk" is given : (1) - when 38 is using a device, and you release the "use" key. Proof: type "fly" in the console, then "use" a device, and when you are finished, or the use is interupted, you don't fly anymore. (2) - when you load a save. (3) - when you're revived

So I tried to put myself under those circumstances during a dialog scene. with method (1): I load The Bridge Of Kachirho (first level of the chapter), and I harm my squadmates badly. I finish the level. On Frontline, during the loading screen, I can shoot at a clone on my right with anti-armor to kill him, and revive him. Theorically I get frozen during this, and when the reviving is over I'm able to move. Except that I never could do that during the loading screen, and I can't oneshot a clone because of their shield, and aiming during a loading screen is very difficult. But that's just an idea that I had. (2): unfortunately, it's impossible to save during those scenes, so I couldn't reload and get a "walk" effect. (3): i set the game on hard difficulty to increase damage, and shoot myself with aa during the loading screen of Frontline. I aim at my feet using the directionnal keys instead of the mouse. I'm dead, the clones revive me, I can move, great :)

but's that the only place where this skip is woth using

Now that's another issue to dig...

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Australia

How do you fire a shot? I'm mashing fire and it doesn't work, I can move a bit, but no boom. Don't tell me my loads are too fast.

France

press 'reload' before pressing 'fire' in fact spam 'reload'+'fire'+'reload'+'fire'+'reload'+'fire'+...

before anyone asks for the timesave: the skip itself saves 18 sec consistently, and if you train on menuing fast using arrows instead of mouse you can switch difficulty in ~2 sec, so overall it saves 13 sec. Don't worry for ammo, there is an aa pack just beyond the door. The main problem is that it harms the squad too, so they will be more injured for A Bridge Too Far

also you can't do that on easy mode because the shield tanks all the burst

Edited by the author 6 years ago
ThinksTheClown likes this
Ohio, USA

directional arrows don't do shit for me, how you you use them to aim? also, I found out you can hold reload+fire to get the shot off, but I'm still not sure about this aiming down business...

Ohio, USA

nevermind, I went in the user.ini file and it seems the delete key was set to LookDown by default.

France

I said directionnal arrows but frankly I don't remember how it was then. Now I do this hitting the '.' (dot) key on my numpad. I don't remember if I did the binding myself or if it was by default (you can look in User.ini indeed).

You will also need this 'look down' key to gain a couple of seconds in The Final Strike, since looking while you're in the turret will reset its reloading animation and prevent the odd delay between 3 shots.

Back on Frontline, I'd like to mention that you're disavantaged because of the quicker load screen you have. It's harder but try to do as follows:

  • (1) hit reload (so you gain control of the gun while it's loading)
  • (2) aim down (so the aa shot will kill you instead of landing in the background) (you have to do that with the key since mouse don't work during loading screens - you can see how the shot bursts against the door even though you look at your feet, that's because the game understood that you shot in load but aimed down after)
  • (3) shoot
  • (4) reset difficulty to easy (if you're running Easy% of course (>w<))
  • (5) wait for revival and then qs/ql to quickly regain ability to move
  • (6) have a particular attention to the squad later on, since they're all yellow now and need bacta. (you're also hurt so be careful)
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