Sounds frustrating. Would you mind if you provided more details and screenshots if possible?

Yeah those mods should be removed from their mod positions, or at least should reinstate your run or remove ZoneVD's run. What if I think they cheated? Gotta remove his own runs now cause me saying it is definitely enough proof

>loaded from a save state
lmao yeah I'd reject it too. Fine pointing out the other run that does the same thing, it should be removed as well, but that's no reason to accept your run. As for whatever text file has to do with anything, whatever proof it gives, I have no clue. Not sure how that could be proof of anything.

Also we have no way of believing your DMs, since they could be faked as well, part of the reason why I'm against using them for reasons like this, but what are ya gonna do I suppose.

edit: Site mods can clear up pretty quickly if the DMs are real of course, but it's still an annoying extra step for everyone else. Where is the text file even pulled from anyways, SRC? Twitch? IRC? regardless a terrible reason to reject runs, though he's right about save states.

Yeah it's not like it's a long game either and you're right, no way to prove that you passed the controller off anyways. I'd say just wait for site mods to chime in here.

Agree that it can be very hard/impossible to prove that a run was not played by 2 different people (unless the play style was visibly changed, but probably not in this type of game).

What does the load from save state means, in this game?
Of course save states shouldn't be used in speedruns, but watching the run of the other guy, there is a quick load of the main menu, and then the game starts from scratch. Why something like this won't be allowed?

Loading a save state in general for any speedrun should be out right not allowed, regardless of the affect it can have on the run.

But yeah for a more specific reason, it can affect "RNG" and/or patterns in the game. In a game like Castlevania we found awhile back that sub weapons drop on certain frames, and that the game keeps track of this from power on, meaning a save state skipping the 9ish seconds of title screen and intro could set them up for drops for free by giving them the same enemy patterns every time.

who would cheat in a run by passing the controller to a friend?? :DD

This is sad to read.

All accusations came from an earlier mod for The Smurfs who found the text that has been filed towards @LPSdynamiksiLPSdynamiksi on his own channel on a video that he himself deleted. Unfortunately he did not screen capture the fiasco so I cannot prove that it was actually said except for the fact that the one who was mod before can be trusted.

In this case I will keep it at the fact that save state were use and warn the other runner he should do the same by just resetting instead of loading a state.

If anybody feels like removing me from my mod status in the Smurfs go right ahead, but I do accuse @LPSdynamiksiLPSdynamiksi of lying and spreading poison.

and you forgot this part: I also noticed you deleted your info that stated you play with 2 players...

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Sorry, but I am not desperate to reject any run. I love it when people get better in speedrunning a game, and it's great to push each other in a game and see people improve in whatever game we speedrun. This is why speedrunning is such a great community.

It is you who is making a big deal out of this. Why would you delete your own videos and edit your info after being called out that is was not 100% fair what you did?

I hope you come out better after this, and if the mods do see me as a thread, than so be it. I would rather step down proud in a great speedrunning community than being talked down by somebody who has to lie about his own actions just make himself feel good.

EDIT: And go ahead, re-submit without loading a save state, I'll accept them, because you are right, I don't have nothing to proof that you played with 2 players, you only have yourself to blame it wasn't legit.

Read my edit

I have been on this website for 6 years and I have never seen anybody act like this ever. Try to be an adult and stop threatening people. Can the mods do something about this because this is not right @DaravaeDaravae

Not gonna lie LPS you're looking way on the worse side pretending like a misunderstanding about your run and doing you bad would make the moderators actually ban him. Taking yourself way too seriously dude lol. If what you are saying is accurate about not cheating then mods will talk with MotherBrain and just have him accept your runs from now on. But yeah good luck having any chance with that threatening motherbrain when you are just some random runner. People make mistakes dude lol. If motherbrain does reject your runs for no reason at all the mods will deal with that. You're acting like Motherbrain committed a felony or some crap

I can completely feel for you, i've been accused of cheating before with no base, and it definitely sucks. I still to this day feel a bit annoyed by it, but the best thing to do in this situation was definitely just talk to the mods. There is no website anywhere that you're gonna be able to just ban someone from because they did something mean to you. (Not saying that Motherbrain has, btw. I obviously don't know.) Just some advice for the future my dude. You know whether or not you did anything wrong, and that's what matters in the end, whether or not motherbrain believes it or whether or not he is right. This whole situation seems a bit messed up anyway and seems like it could definitely use a site mod to help sort this out, because if motherbrain is applying more rules that only apply to you that is obviously dumb, and cameras aren't going to prove anything unless he is physically there with you watching you play the game, so I don't think that will hold with the mods really. I'm sure this'll be figured out and both of you guys will move on

Okay I'm just gonna go ahead and lock this thread because this isn't a public matter and this has all gotten a bit out of hand. We're looking into it and talking to the involved parties.