Can we get separate categories for emulated runs?
6 years ago
United States

I ask because so far I've loved running this game, but don't want my runs to go to waste. I don't know all the technicalities of why emulated runs are banned, but I would be perfectly fine with them becoming a separate category.

United States

Update: Just got a 11:18.56, and it was recorded at a consistent 20 frames per second so if the moderators of this game want to see that I can post it in here, so you can compare an emulated run to a SNESClassic run, I can.

United States

The reason why emulators and the -fp 0 mod on the SNES classic are banned is because emulators do not account for the filter on the SNES Classic that causes slowdown. Compare these two videos: and , any time there is fire on screen, be it from a column (such as in the cannon betrayers or Eladard and Meteor on Expert) or from the fire lasers of first form Andross, the SNES Classic slows down due to the anti-seizure filter. -fp 0 is a hack to remove that filter, which also speeds up the game, and emulators do not have it at all since the filter is part of the SNES classic kernel.

We don't feel that people should have to modify their consoles to compete, thus those options are banned. We can discuss emulator runs as a separate category, but be advised that ZSNES (which is what you used from the load state screen if I'm not mistaken) is globally banned as an emulator. SNES1.5x has yet to be tested for this game. We'd start that conversation with BSNES/Higan or BizHawk.

United States

I looked over the two runs, and I can definitely say that I agree that there was a gap between the two. I agree that no one should have to modify their console, so the best thing to do to allow this game to still be accessible to those that weren't able to get a SNES Classic would be to start creating a category for emulated runs. I'll do a run of the game on BSNES, and then post it here for you to look over. Overall, I agree with what you added to this discussion.

United States

So after two hours of fiddling I am sad to report that my sad little potato cannot run BSNES at a good enough speed.

United States

That isn't particularly surprising, BSNES has a reputation for requiring a monster setup to run correctly. Give BizHawk a shot, It does require a good amount of fiddling to run decently, but the minimum specs are far below BSNES/Higan and it still is much further on the accurate end.

All else fails, after Distant Star Cares wraps up we'll do some comparisons with SNES9X 1.53. Tokko_Tomcat has ton of experience running that core in a variety of environments and we can compare that to BizHawk, which Zallard has more experience with.