I am looking to start running this game and file #2 online with some friends in the near future and noticed an issue on the leaderboards with a large amount of online runs. The rules say that online runs need to be timed in RTA, however there are many runs that lack an RTA timer and are verified using the IGT. I am asking that these runs either be retimed or the rules need to be changed so that the these runs do not conflict with the rules.

Outbreak https://www.speedrun.com/run/zn8jw67z https://www.speedrun.com/run/mrqrgxgy https://www.speedrun.com/run/zgn229ny https://www.speedrun.com/run/y97xp7nm

Below Freezing Point https://www.speedrun.com/run/zgnq0pvy https://www.speedrun.com/run/ydqd3qxm https://www.speedrun.com/run/zn87n93z

The Hive https://www.speedrun.com/run/y67x43qm

Hellfire https://www.speedrun.com/run/y45o9xnm https://www.speedrun.com/run/z5oxl6jy https://www.speedrun.com/run/ydq115jm

Decisions Decisions https://www.speedrun.com/run/zxvn318y https://www.speedrun.com/run/z0el6ljm

Counting and linking these runs shows me that over half of the runs on the boards are incorrectly timed but were still approved is sad to see. Due to the sheer amount of runs that are incorrect I personally think that the runs should be removed as it would take a very long time for the mods to retime runs that did not follow the rules in the first place, but this is not my decision. I would be willing to assist in retiming runs if needed.

First up @WoweeTheDoggo thank you for bringing these to our attention. Many of us are modding other games so the runs are simply “passed through” a lot of the time. Clearly there is a hole here and it needs to be fixed (though most of us are very busy). If there is no obvious sign of cheating, we shouldn’t delete them, but we should retime them instead. Clearly, the runners didn’t understand the rules for timing, and not rejecting the videos didn’t help with that.

If you would be willing to assist in retiming, that’d be great. We’re going to need to check it ourselves.

Yea I don't mind helping with retiming as well, just to take the load off of the other runners and mods. I didn't realize there were so many, I had just noticed a few recently

I would be very open to work on re timing some of them today. The only thing I need to know is does the RTA timer need to stop at the start of the final cutscene or right as the results screen appears?

I have always started my timer on first action and ended on final character action. Hopefully that is the correct method

This looks to be the case for all other runs that are timed correctly so I will begin retiming on those conditions I will retime Outbreak, Below Freezing Point, and The Hive right now

In the order linked above Outbreak Outbreak: Normal - Online in 8m 52s by Hurriboy and Ua_Blaze96 is now 10m 36s Outbreak: Normal - Online in 10m 18s by Hurriboy and Nicholson1992 is now 12m 19s Outbreak: Very Hard - Online in 8m 49s by SASURAI and Harima is now 10m 44s Outbreak: Very Hard - Online in 10m 02s by ryfaael, Klokmit, WeebOtome and Hurriboy is now 20min 25min - Emulator is not running at 100% which clearly impacted time

In the order linked above Below Freezing Point Below Freezing Point: Normal - Online in 14m 38s by Hurriboy, WeebOtome and Nicholson1992 is now 14m 27s Below Freezing Point: Very Hard - Online in 14m 53s by Hurriboy, Klokmit and iMackenzie is now 15min 8s Below Freezing Point: Very Hard - Online in 20m 22s by Hurriboy and iMackenzie is now 20m 32s

The Hive The Hive: Very Hard - Online in 5m 57s by Harima and SASURAI is now 6m 35s

In the order linked above Hellfire Hellfire: Normal - Online in 7m 33s by Hurriboy and iMackenzie is now 7m 28s Hellfire: Very Hard - Online in 5m 00s by Hurriboy, WeebOtome and ryfaael is now 8m 59s - Emulator is not running at 100% which clearly impacted time Hellfire: Very Hard - Online in 13m 58s by Hurriboy, iMackenzie and WeebOtome is now 13m 5s

In order linked above Decisions Decisions Decisions, Decisions: Very Hard - Online in 36m 15s by Kai and Harima is now 38 min 51s Decisions, Decisions: Very Hard - Online in 39m 36s by Hurriboy, Klokmit and iMackenzie - INVALID- File #3 character used Mary

All runs retimed or reviewed