Due to my experience in every single playable IL in the game, I have recently been asked if I would like to be a mod for the IL's of GTA V. As the timing rules have been voted on and are now official, I have compiled this list ( http://prntscr.com/fewyi9 ) of invalid runs or incorrect timing for IL's up until and including Crystal Maze. This can be considered my "application" for being a GTA V moderator.
Nice work. I'll throw my hat in the ring for mod just for IL's also. I haven't been around the community as long as Cheese but I'm very active at the moment and I'm on the site multiple times a day. I would love a chance to prove my worth.
Wait, you're required to use the replay menu for ILs? What a pile of garbage
When people who don't run the game complain about the rules of the speedrun EleGiggle
It is what the people voted for, as always, I don't vote. http://www.speedrun.com/gtav/thread/kf11d
When mod of a game complain about people that don't run said game complaining about rules without checking their profile and finding out they actually run the game. 4Head
Then hoxy how do you think timing should start. Its never ending mess. Never everyone will be happy. We need one Ils mod that verifies times correctly.
Both replay and mission markers. Or do it like TBoGT mods do, use a separate variable for marker starts and replay menu starts.
I stand corrected with your 5 month ago Trevor% run. I am unsure how I missed your.... unwavering tenacity... Consider me a San Andreas runner while you are at it.
We don't need everyone to be happy, it wasn't even close with the voting. The replay menu just provides an easy start and end for ILs with the least ability to cheat or alter aspects of the run that would be hard to catch. Its fair and simple as the start is clear.
At the very least, all the runs in a category need to be judged by the same standard. That is the most important thing. Perhaps people voted hastily. A consensus was reached but I did ask for other suggestions so maybe we should revote with additional options?
I believe the primary purpose of preferring the replay menu was to avoid people starting from mission fails as this did change how the timing worked. Starting from the actual mission marker would achieve this as well but I don't really see the benefit from doing so.
The attempts made with mission replays would be done with maxed out characters and fully upgraded car (using the 100% save file). However, if you wanted to do half the ILs with mission markers it would require the attempt be made at particular times in the game (before the markers disappear). For most of the ILs, a mission marker attempt would be far less able to achieve a good time. I just don't see the benefit in this secondary way to do runs that complicates the boards and their rules.
Additionally, people removed the missions that are not available from the mission replay menu. Would we have to add them back? I believe the initial view was that we were competing for the best times in the mission replays. Would we need to add everything available from the mission markers? There is a lot of random stuff that have mission markers, right?
¤Edit: The races should at least be fine in terms of using mission markers. They always exist and use in-game time.
If cheese can convince me he would care about accuracy of times i dont mind. How he said to me that one time didnt sound he is interested in it but i might be wrong
I don't even have technology that could detect frame reliant times. If there was ever a time that was 2+ seconds off what was reported, I would change the time. However, if a run was submitted with a time of 4:29 and I thought there might be a change it was 4:30, I wouldn't bother as I couldn't be 100% sure without using something i don't have to check such a thing. If there were ever two times that were close enough, I would request one of the other mods that knew how to do frame perfect timing to double check both times,
Being off by 1 second is fine but if you think its 4:30 you should change it as the effort is effectively nothing. I am not disturbed by the idea that occasionally a misjudgement might be made where a 4:29 is actually a 4:30 or vice versa, but an honest attempt to check the time of the run and to edit the submission where you think there is an error is all that is asked.
There will be times where a person will end of 0:39.97. Just look at the start, does it seem like the time started a tad late and split on time? If so, its a 0:40. Does it seem like they split late and started a tad late? Odds are its a 0:39. Its only a fraction of runs where you are left wondering if a few frames make it one or the other. Just a reasonable attempt at discerning the correct time is all that is asked.
Which is what I would do. I am just saying that if it is in those situations, I don't have the ability to frame check. But of course my best judgement would be made.
