smooth corner/ledge
1 year ago
Ukraine

found new trick, if you start your game from password you can skip ledges like in clip. it's allowed i hope?

Illinois, USA

Woah! Thats a heck of a find!

Ukraine

that works only for first stage :( sad

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Ukraine

@FEZ_GG , @twin0mega this thing works on whole game, this glitch will stop work if you press down d-pad. i will try to use that if it's allowed for runs? start from password example on last stage hard to say how much it can save time, but seems like not a lot. max 5s i think from my stuff what i do

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Illinois, USA

I think it would have to be its own category. But go for it if you think its something you want to do :D

Ukraine

nah just thinking if i can use it in main category xD if not, not gonna do this for sure :) have to change some strats for this. also not sure if that would be faster in total, cause you lose some time on stage 3-2 and act boss 3 :(

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Illinois, USA

Yeah, it's just something I think needs a little discussion before we set it and forget it. For instance, it could have huge time saves if new spots are found where clipping wasn't previously possible.

Glitches arent something we've had to really think about much in the NG series.

And it's really up to the community. So please do voice your thoughts so we can continue the conversation.

Edited by the author 1 year ago
California, USA

any% is called any% for a reason. like when the glitch to go through walls in ng2 was found, i was like "heck yeah," not like "hmm idk, this might save too much time!" most of the time, the amount of time save is not significant enough to really matter that much, but gives a breath of life into a run and makes it more interesting. in ng2, it probably saves like 3 seconds. even if this was like a 15+ time save overall, i'd still be for adding it in.

just as an example, mega man 5 had a refights skip that was found awhile back, and the community didn't even bat an eye in including it. cut off like 2 minutes from the run.

we need to stay true to category names. making a new category is overkill - look at something like super metroid or link to the past where any% no major glitches is the typically run category. if you use major glitches, you cut the run down by a factor of 10x-20x. this is cutting a currently estimated 5 seconds off of a run that's over 10 minutes. let people have fun.

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Ukraine

Well, I’ll start with the fact that it’s not a fact that with this glitch it will be faster, you need to check. and I’ll finish by saying that the run starts from the first inptut, so starting from password in J could be allowed. perhaps the glitch itself will become useless due to the fact that with it there will be more time loss than time save, in appearance, this is an ordinary glitch, with which zip does not work at the last level, by the way) That's why I created a topic to find out before runs. and I just figured out how it works yesterday, and it's really funny that because of the down arrow, it stops working. and creating a new category for the sake of this glitch is definitely not worth it. I think it’s enough just to find out if it’s possible to start the game from password in the main category. at the moment it’s even difficult for me to say whether each corner will save time, and if you save, then imagine you lose 100% up to three seconds per act 3, that is, to save 3 seconds, you need to have at least 30 corners in the game, if you calculate that each corner save 0.1 NotLikeThis

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Illinois, USA

Yeah, I say go for it.

My only reservation was for future discoveries based on the clipping. But I fully agree that this is more than fine.

And yes, any% will always include all time saves available as the name implies.

Edited by the author 1 year ago
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