(I should have changed the title, we need new rules and a new mod, we don't need to ban maxi)(Read the WHOLE thing) What Maxi has been doing in the past few months is really concerning me.
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The max ban for "speeding up a run" is 2 years, and that's what he gave me for doing basically the most harmless cut, which is cutting out ncp. If that's wrong is debatable, but it's definitely not as bad as speeding up a run a ton. I lost momentum from the ncp, so even if I did cut it out, so it was still slower than if I didn't have ncp. It also would have still been wr, and it was 11 months ago. It was also not very good, I've beaten it by 1.5 seconds recently. I won't do anything like that again, and I haven't done that with any of my other videos. What Maxi did is clearly really biased and unforgiving. I didn't know it was against the rules, and it's just super dumb to ban me for 2 years for that, let alone at all... you know that you don't have the right to ban me for that, especially since I didn't know it was against the rules. This is really about that u think I can't go this fast without hacks, but what about max? He's gotten a lot of faster runs and he doesn't hack or cut frames.
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Maxi's timing rules are extremely unjust. You are literally accepting runs that are up to .5 seconds slower than the records I had (some of them are not even faster even though their leaderboard appears way before my timer ended). You're literally bringing back ping timing and people don't bat an eye, like wtf... Also it makes me really sad that people are looking at runs way slower than mine and thinking they are wr just because they are official, and they haven't seen mine. I would be disgusted by this even if I wasn't the one banned. Maxi should NOT be banned from being mod, but we need a new set of rules that are actually fair (yes, still against cutting out ncp). I've thought of much better timing rules where we end the timer when people get to a certain platform that u get onto before the leaderboard ends, that way we dont have ping timing. I know this will make all the runs seem faster, but we will adjust to it, just like we adjusted to the speed change between ping timing and beacon timing.
That's all I have to say, I'm not trying to send hate, i'm trying to make this community a better place. I hope you can see the big picture of this essay, not just the parts I wrote that you think are flawed. <3
Speeding up a run refers to manipulating the speed of the run that you submitted.
Cutting frames and increasing the video's speed applies to this rule. What you "could've" done as opposed to what you did does not matter in the face of a rule violation.
What Maxi did was completely in line with the rules. Your ignorance of them does not make you immune to enforcement. His tendency to be "unforgiving" is completely justified. The creation of the rule system at the time of its creation was entirely so that there was able to be a consistent enforcement of in-game rules, without any threat of a moderator giving in to whims about giving overly excessive punishments or "letting one slide".
As for the timing system, I'm indifferent. If you have a better system to propose, I'm sure Maxi is open to hear it.
Thanks Will.
Anyways now Dino listen here:
Most people in DE have never read the rules yet have a basic idea. Especially in the case of cutting frames, given the amount of time you've been playing DE you know there is simply no exception towards cutting frames, and never in the history of DE has anyone ever thought it ok for someone to cut frames because of ncp. Not only that but the drama you had in February with multiple people accusing you of cheating (unfortunately it was one of the months my health wasn't on top so I more-or-less left the job of investigating to Craftain and fat) makes the chances of you not knowing what cutting frames are makes it even less likely. On top of the sheer amount of wrs you had makes your claim simply laughable. Lastly, how could I be sure that you didn't know it was against the rules? You refuse to cope with the fact that you're banned because you cheated, and so you want me removed as mod and have it your way.
Now for the timing: Didn't Fatty or Craftain tell you in the discord server about it? Essentially it sounds good on paper, but it'll be very difficult in practice.
"You're literally bringing back ping timing and people don't bat an eye, like wtf..."
If "don't bat an eye" means complaints, then sure there hasn't been much complaint, mostly because it has been either of benefit or just normal movement based timing if the ping is normal. It might changed in case Mineplex fixes this this ping problem in a few years. I'm not completely opposed to the idea of estimating at the end, it's just really impractical and I (probably others) would prefer the margin of error to be as low as possible, in the 1-15ms instead of the tens of ms or even hundreds of ms. Given how little time difference there is between runs being wr and not being wr I hope you can understand the importance. The timing system isn't perfect because of the update that came out around this year. But it's the most practical: If ping prevents you from getting to the beacon then end the timer the very frame the victory scene (area or whatever word you want to use) appears. But if it doesn't appear then normal movement timing.
I know you don't like me on a personal level and I can understand, however this isn't anything personal. Rules are rules and calling me unforgiving or uncaring, or any of the ridiculous stuff you said in the discord server like how I was being "hateful" is not going to work on me. I (and again please don't take offense to this, just my honest thoughts) strongly suggest you to move on with something more productive. You'll eventually forget about this. Being obsessed with a game (Dragon Escape of all games especially) that you cheated on is very unhealthy.
Alright, here goes nothing.
"The max ban for "speeding up a run" is 2 years, and that's what he gave me for doing basically the most harmless cut, which is cutting out ncp." You cut out a portion of the run to make it faster than it actually is. I do not care that NCP is random, it happened and you can't just pretend it didn't. As far as I'm concerned, this should be blatantly obvious, and the fact that you didn't even ask at first suggests that you literally had no inkling of a thought that it could be. I agree that 2 years might be a bit excessive given the circumstance (even though I am all for permanent bans), but it is still justified.
"I lost momentum from the ncp, so even if I did cut it out, so it was still slower than if I didn't have ncp" runs that are not world record / are slower still abide to the same rules. The fact that it was still slower does not matter.
"I didn't know it was against the rules, and it's just super dumb to ban me for 2 years for that, let alone at all... you know that you don't have the right to ban me for that, especially since I didn't know it was against the rules." He totally has that right. He has been bestowed the position of moderator out of trust and he has done nothing to show that he is not to be trusted. He is applying the law, albeit a little bit strictly. And don't say "but we have to be a democracy for everything", almost all governmental systems don't have the public vote on issues, they just vote on who should lead (which in a sense happened with everyone trusting Maxi at the time of giving him mod)
"This is really about that u think I can't go this fast without hacks, but what about max? He's gotten a lot of faster runs and he doesn't hack or cut frames." There are several reasons why we would only accuse you. For one, Max is way more established as a member of the community than you were when we were at peak cheat accusing. Second, actual proof has come forth regarding you from Craftain (this evidence HAS been proven to be faulty, but it still keeps the thought in the people's minds). When brought up to you, you also acted REALLY suspicious. Max has no signs of a cheater. You do.
"Maxi's timing rules are extremely unjust. You are literally accepting runs that are up to .5 seconds slower than the records I had (some of them are not even faster even though their leaderboard appears way before my timer ended)." I literally don't understand the point here. Assuming the point, runs that aren't world record shouldn't just not be posted. The glorification of wrs is part of the reason this community died; the only incentive was world record, you got nothing for playing just decently.
"You're literally bringing back ping timing and people don't bat an eye, like wtf" Of course everyone would prefer not having ping timing, but not having ping timing cannot work anymore. Any idea to combat that has ever came up has had a blatant flaw.
"Also it makes me really sad that people are looking at runs way slower than mine and thinking they are wr just because they are official, and they haven't seen mine" This isn't even about Maxi anymore, this is just your ego. Grow up.
"I've thought of much better timing rules where we end the timer when people get to a certain platform that u get onto before the leaderboard ends, that way we dont have ping timing." There is so much I could talk about here, I'm just not gonna bother, as we have brought up these points to you several times and you clearly just refuse to listen.
"I hope you can see the big picture of this essay, not just the parts I wrote that you think are flawed." Normally I would agree with this, but there are a couple issues. Firstly, there is a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is to be a moderator. There is a reason that rules are kept as strict as they are. If there is any way to abuse the rules, people will do it. In more lax speedrun communities, there is a trust between the runners as they usually specifically play in the interest of the speedrunning. Dragon Escape is not one of those games. The fact that we have had 4 confirmed cheaters shows this. But even cheating in subtler ways needs to be avoided, which partially explains why we don't think the current proposed system of having not-ping-based timing won't work. If you have a problem with your specific ban, DM Maxi about it, don't go off on a rant about how the rules are broken. Second, none of the issues you presented except for the ping issue are actual fundamental rule problems. You are just complaining about how the rules have affected YOU, and only you. It has shown no reason that the moderation and the rules need to be changed as a whole. And I already addressed (multiple times in the past) that the ping timing is the only reliable timing we can use.
I have for the most part stopped paying attention to this community's antics, but seeing this post grinded my gears for the final time. If you try to refute what I have to say here, feel free, but don't expect a response back. I have dealt with a lot of horrid people in this community, and while you certainly aren't the most toxic nor the most malicious, you are perhaps the most either ignorant or self-absorbed one I've ever seen. I hope seeing how much is going against you can help you realize this.
