Also, with a free demo of the game being available on Steam, it might be nice to add a few demo categories, such as Demo Any% and Demo Glitchless. It is possible to reach the credits in the demo with exploits, but that run isn't really distinct enough from regular Any% to warrant a category. I already performed a run of Demo Any%, so if that category is made, there will be at least one run on there.
I've been discussing the rules and definition of the "Glitchless" category with ripWSB in the OSC discord. I want to quickly summarize here what we talked about, and bring up the ideas for category clarifications and changes we mentioned in there.
The conversation started when we figured out a way of approaching Pilgrim's Peak from the north, and ripWSB mentioned that it could allow for skipping the crown quest in Glitchless. I mentioned that I feel like allowing runs to skip the cable car and crown quests is against the spirit of the category, and wondered if it should be against the category rules. The rules simply say that "glitches are not allowed", which doesn't really clarify what is and isn't allowed. I also realized that ripWSB already submitted a Glitchless run that skipped the cable car quest, which would be affected by whether skipping these quests is allowed or not.
My take on this is that "talking with Grandma in a location before she's moved to that location" qualifies as a glitch. Grandma's behavior is actually pretty straightforward. If the crown quest has been completed, she will be in Pilgrim's Peak (disabled if the player has already talked to her there). If the crown quest has not completed, but the cable car quest has, then she will be in Turtle Rock. Lastly, if neither quest has been completed, she will be in the starting area. If we define talking to grandma somewhere she isn't a glitch, then Glitchless would require completing the cable car quest before the turtle rock cutscene and completing the crown quest before the pilgrim's peak cutscene.
There's also a case to be made that Glitchless should allow this kind of sequence breaking, and instead a new category should be made for not sequence breaking. Based on our current game knowledge, it seems like the glitches that this kind of Glitchless category would ban are super jumps, clipping through walls, and OoB upwarps. A new category could be made then to cover runs that don't use sequence breaks. Personally, I prefer making category rules based on what runners must do rather than what runners cannot do. In this way, the new category would be defined something like "you must do the cable car quest, second grandma conversation, crown quest, and third grandma conversation, in that order." Whether this new category allows glitches would also need to be figured out, as allowing the OoB upwarp glitch would likely affect the route.
I'm going to delete my glitchless run that skips the cable car until things get decided but personally, my plan going forward is to run using a ruleset of :
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must finish each quest and can't do a Grandma cutscene without her being there (aka, do the crown quest and clear the cable car path)
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can't do the super jump
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can't go OoB or do the OoB upwarp
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can't clip through physical objects like walls to get around obstructions
