Changing the boards ?
5 years ago
Île-de-France, France

Hello there.

While I was speedrunning and experimenting stuffs inside the game, I also thought about the boards organization.

At first, Lastsin decided to split the boards between US and JPN, and that may have been a good thing, at that time. When I came with a PAL run, it became a problem, because that meant he was forced to split the boards again. TBH, I think that in the current setting, we should reunite the boards, as splitting it actually kills the little competition we have : there is only 1 runner in each board due to both region locking and emulator banning.

What I though is that we could reunite the boards (which would make 2 boards : Any% and AllPhoto%), and open an emulator category, which would allow other people to join and create a community for this game. Also, I think we should delete the Easy% and Hard% as no one has run it ever (and considering that PAL doesn't allow difficulty changing).

Also : please, let's use the subcategories to organize the boards, that will be clearer and smoother than 5-6 board / miscellaneous tab.

Note that these are only food for thoughts, I am only proposing things from my point of view, and am open for discussion about it.

Thank you. Edit : replaced "Jap" by "JPN" as it could be mistaken for an insult. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Edited by the author 5 years ago
New Jersey, USA

Here is the thing the US game has 3 different difficulty modes The JP game has 1 overall difficulty mode The PAL one that you run Rom-stein seems to have 1 difficulty mode from what I see, and runs at 50hz which is a different over all thing then the other 2 60hz games. I have looked into this game thoroughly and it is better if they stay split up. It is bad enough the whole thing with emulators is a problem ,but at this point it is staying this way.

It isn't like there is much to this game besides collect the photos or not. The rules are explained clearly enough as well too.

The emulator thing is I want this board to stay pure the emulators lag the game alot in areas as Harutomo pointed out to me and alot run the game slightly faster then a Playstation1 or 2 console.

The misc tab also appears on Speedrun.com when there are more then 5 categories. There are no sub categories any how. I also removed US Easy mode cause you are right though no one runs that.

I am attempting to play hard mode though and it is not easy to do at this point it has increased damge,no shooting guide,less damage you cause to enemies, and less drops like health,whistles and all that.

This is all I got for now though when more then 3 people show up to play this game we can alter the boards, only thing I am really DEAD SET ON is "NO EMULATOR RUNS". I am open to whatever else down the road though.

-SiN

Île-de-France, France

Thanks for your reply.

Well, subcategories are a settings you can set on the boards. That at least is an easy change that can make things clearer. For instance, you can make 2 boards, Any% and AllPhoto%, and in each, you will have 3 subcategories, US, JPN and PAL. They will be separated boards, just that the layout will be clearer. (and I say it again : subcategories only changes the LAYOUT, it still remains different boards)

As for the emus : yes, they are faster in some ways, especially loading times. But why banning it and not opening a dedicated category ? That's what I wanted to know. If you are dead set on it that means you have a reason. I understand the "lag/running faster" issue so it can't be in the same board, but why banning it ? That's what I wanted to know.

By the way, you say "it runs faster than PS1 or PS2", but as I recall, you can't submit a run done on PS2, when you submit the run, there's only "Playstation" that shows up. (well, playing on PS2 is faster than PS1 actually so I can understand why)

Finally, considering the reasons for splitting the versions : yes, the PAL version runs at 50Hz only, but honestly, that's up to the player to take the burden of playing a slower version, it shouldn't be a reason to split boards as the speed difference doesn't change the overall route (especially considering that the PAL version is a slower translated version of JPN). About the difficulty thing however, I can understand why it should remain a different board then as it makes the games actually different.

Again, thanks for your reply. I only want to discuss respectfully, I'm not forcing you to anything, I just want to know more of your reasoning. ^^

Edit : replaced "jap" by "JPN" as it could be mistaken for an insult, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Edited by the author 5 years ago
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