Hexl's 25 Unrestricted - Concerns
3 years ago
New South Wales, Australia

All righty..... here we go I was watching this run - amazed as most, but more than a few things bothered me.

  1. Maths - CR is 60fps, 25 hops requires 24 frames from the 1st hop. This equates to 0.400 seconds. This is assuming double clicks are impossible, which I believe they are. I have gotten one (see last points of 1000 Pac-man run), but I assume it is lag induced. One frame below this is Hexl's run, which going frame by frame, includes several doubles in a frame, as well as not gaining points on a frame.

  2. Scroll wheel better than autoclicker? Using an autoclicker to my knowledge should have the same effect as rerouting left click to the scroll wheel. However, I was unable to obtain double clicks, and gained extremely consistent 0.400s using an autoclicker running at more than 15 clicks per frame. I note this based on Hexl's own reply to 'How?' of "scroll wheel"

Now the stuff other people probably didn't see... I found these after finding nothing contradictory to 1. and 2.

  1. Audio file contains ending sound during run. This is also clearly audible on the video itself. I maybe to cover up janky sound from a double click? Maybe a bug?

  2. Character turn animation: Character turn animation is separate from forwards movement. If you use an autoclicker and compare the turn animation the fox between your's and Hexl's, you should see a noticeable difference. You should also see a disturbing similarity between one forwards input (one frame press and release), and the turn animation of Hexl's fox - around 11/12 frames before it is pretty much straight, whereas an autoclicker run, the fox is about only halfway through turning in the same number of frames.

I will say in Hexl's defence that he dies on the correct lane, cheating if it did occur was not that blatantly obvious.

Id love any input, and would welcome being disproven. Otherwise, I firmly believe that 0.400s is the absolute maximum for this category, even with click + button tech, which I have tested - any release of both on the same frame causes only one input.

I have not yet looked at the 500 category, but I hope I don't find anything similar there. Edit: 50 seems to be at current theoretical maximum, double 25, + 1 frame as no. 26 is included, but score 1 isnt, I see no need to investigate further

Edited by the author 3 years ago
United Kingdom

this is intresting btw hexls run was definetly fake from the start

New South Wales, Australia

I wouldn't say that mate, mods have experience in these, and I'm sure it is possible that it isn't. That isn't polite to Hexl, or the mods for that matter. This is not conclusive evidence and should not be treated as such, and if it was 'definitely fake' I would love an explanation.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Otterstone_Gamer likes this
New South Wales, Australia

Just found another discrepancy (maybe) - if you look at 28 (death score) - the 'top score' is displayed twice with a gap between. It doesn't scroll on from the side of the screen, which is normal, but then there is a frame where there is no text. This first instance appears for only one frame. Furthermore, on the frame after this, the cars do not move, only the screen... I dunno

Edited by the author 3 years ago