Lazy Moderators.
6 years ago
Valhalla

some games are lenient on what kind of proof is needed to verify a run, not so much laziness as it is giving leeway to people that aren't able to actually record, but when it's like a top run or something that sounds more like a problem

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Esperanto

What's funny is I was looking at SMO the other day, and there were like 3 times at 1:20:01 with no video proof, two from users who have never submitted anything, then there was only one a couple days later. Looking at again, all those runs are gone and now another proofless run is at the same time.

Like, clearly, if someone is submitting a run with no proof that just happens to be one second after the cut off for proof... At least the new time, the runner has an obsolete timer with the video, so maybe he's actually ran the game.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
England

I don't doubt that there will be at least some times on the Odyssey board that are not legitimate, but you have to consider the flipside based on how damn active that game is:

The situation would not be significantly improved by requiring video evidence for all submissions.

Consider how many submissions that game receives based on how many players there are. Video evidence being required for verification only has merit if that video evidence is actually being watched (verified) by a moderator. It would be logistically impossible for the moderation team to watch all submitted footage for the purpose of verification, and so it's only natural to establish a cutoff point for when it is reasonable to believe someone could achieve a given time without demonstrating it. These times should preferably be quite generous, or 'free', and different games have different thresholds for it.

I agree with the thresholds provided in some games and disagree with others, but in this instance it's up to the game's moderators to decide what this cutoff point should be. It's absolutely a good pragmatic decision when dealing with massive quantities of submitted runs, as the alternative is moderators just not watching the videos and auto-verifying, which defeats the purpose of requiring video evidence altogether.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
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Ohio, USA

Simple solution. Mod everyone. Kappa.

European Union

darn, you exposed me! And I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling runners Kappa https://i.imgur.com/bjWlOC4.png

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North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

WTF IS THAT?!? o_O

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European Union

@SpiderSponge Monster Hunter: ZA WARUDO (jk jk but if you wonder why it's blue I have a css mod that makes stuff a bit more neat to look at)

North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

I was talking about the 639 pending runs.

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Victoria, Australia
stoot
He/Him, They/Them
6 years ago

Odyssey will need a clean up in the future, but it's so active that I'm not sure the mods will have time for it before the game is at least not easily the most active game on the site (SMO has 582 active players, Getting Over It is 2nd with 145).