Survivor, glitchless, deathless, all collectables thread.
5 years ago
New Jersey, USA

I see, by the moderator and KPC's attempt at trolling, that my run was not viewed favorably. I politely ask that they withdraw my run if and only if they create a "survivor, glitchless, deathless, all collectables," run. This game means a lot to me and would respect it if my wishes were met.

Minnesota, USA

I recommend joining the discord. The problem was that you didn't supply an accurate time and the lack of continuity put the reliability of your timing on par with a spliced run.

Valhalla

So the response was to not reject it on these grounds, but instead accept not one, but two meme videos as WR. That's some moderation of the highest caliber.

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Minnesota, USA

Don't submit joke runs if you're gonna get upset when its laughed at. I'm not the people that did this of course and won't try to speak on their behalf. Again, if you have a problem, take it to the Discord where there are tons of active people willing to talk to you about how to properly sort it out. If you're going to just submit a let's play, you're going to be poked fun at though.

Valhalla

I mean, if the problem was that the run was on par with a spliced run, and the dude is asking for the run to be withdrawn, what exactly is the point of not rejecting the run and adding fake runs "for the memes LUUL" (from the discord itself). It seems like incredibly poor reasoning to base adding those runs off of making fun of someone else's submission, let alone pretty unprofessional

Minnesota, USA

I mean if you're reading the discord please bring this discussion into there. I'm not saying the joke wasn't stupid. But keep in mind that The Collection is kind of a joke all together to BioShock runners, nonetheless some dudes let's play of the most arbitrary category, and then the dude submitting is inaccurate let's play to 3 categories, 2 of which claimed free world records. And I'm not saying the run was on pace with a spliced run, it doesn't seem cheated, the arbitrary run is just cherry topped with the fact that he failed to give a remotely accurate time with the submission. Again, please bring this over to the Discord chat where many will be willing to explain to your dense self why an unprofessional run was met with unprofessional acceptance.

Valhalla

What exactly would need to be discussed? It's a simple reject and move on, you literally said yourself that the reliability is on par with a spliced run, I would assume you know what that word means

Minnesota, USA

Well you seem to have problems with the unprofessionalism of Proto and KPC. If you're going to complain here but not take up action I don't see the point in chiming in, so there's a discussion to be had. And I would disagree that it's an open and shut case of it being rejected, the original runner obviously thought so also with his concern. I strongly recommend going here for any further comments : https://discord.gg/kGvCswj

Valhalla

The reason I say it's a simple reject and move on is because the submitter asked for it to be removed (although he can remove it himself if he truly wishes). I don't mean to imply that it's an open and shut case of it being an invalid run from my analysis which isn't worth anything, only that you make it seem that way saying originally the way the run was submitted is on par with a spliced run. The reason I don't take it up in discord is because it'll be removed anyways as per the submitter's request unless he changes his mind or mods don't check the forum. On the other hand, there's not much of a reason for me to reiterate what I just said here in the discord when the problem will presumably be fixed so I'll leave it at that

United States

Doesn't matter how much of a "joke" the game is considered in the community for Bioshock, it was either not a valid run because it was impossible to retime accurately or it was a valid run that should not have been bumped with meme submissions twice. Neither situation calls for uploading and verifying meme runs either, there is literally no situation where uploading and verifying meme runs is beneficial to anybody.

United States

Mods: Clean up the crap or we'll find someone else to maintain the board. The site's boards aren't your personal dumpster. April Fools was two weeks ago, grow up.

Edited by the author 5 years ago
herrmann3, Habreno and 4 others like this
United States

I can't say I know much about trolling or your submission. I don't really care about drama.

On the topic of the category you want there is no category variation based on death count or difficulty. The reason there isn't is because as a speedrun Bioshock relies heavily on deathwarping. It isn't that the runners can't do it deathless. It just makes it slower. For the difficulty it also does not really change much about the run.

Glitchless could maybe be added as a variable for all collectibles but in my opinion it still does not really change much. I could see maybe not wanting to do Ryan skip though.

Is the all collectibles category not good enough? Just an honest question as we have admittedly never had anyone else ask for this many variables in a category and it is seemingly kind of an arbitrary category by the standards created from the leaderboard.

Edited by the author 5 years ago