@Azureflame4 just gonna quote what I previously said in regards to your first bit:
"...as waterfall skip tends to wreck what the game is about in the first place (I'm sure someone here could explain this better than I can.) You go from "Recruit digimon as fast as possible and best Mt. Infinity" to "go through a bunch of menus; disregarding over 90% of the game's content and beating the game through pretty much arbitrary means.""
However I would agree with the idea of "fake recruitments are allowed, yet must be obtained legitimately somewhere in the run to validate it." It doesn't completely disallow the glitch, however it does limit it's usefulness in a way that makes DW1 still be DW1 and not menu simulator.
In regards to the category that no-one has yet to run though (All Medals), I think with more research into the matter this gitch could cover that also; whether or not it's by ticking boxes for tournaments/digivolutions/moves/ect or just straight-up giving you medals is currently unknown.
Alright so a decision has been made as to what to do with the categories. Essentially we're going with 3 categories, with one of them having a split in.
- No Major Glitches. This will be the main category and the first to show up on the leaderboards. This will disallow the iusage of textbox storage entirely. Piximon glitch will likely be allowed in this category, as it does not cause any detrimental effects such as crashing by regular means in the speedrun.
- Any%. Allows the use of all glitches.
- 100 Prosperity Points. This will have a sub-category split of Major Glitches/No Major Glitches (likely that NMG will be the first to show, though that may change and likely won't matter regardless).
The relevant changes are pictured here: https://gyazo.com/9f25a81008bc78bc156374fe970783aa . Though the screengrab does not show it, all 100 PP speedruns have been moved to the "No Major Glitches" sub-category. All current Any% speedruns have been moved to the "No Major Glitches" category, and though there is currently no true Any% time submitted, Raikou is going to submit a PB for that category when he is satisfied enough with the time he gets.
This removes any arbitrary lines being drawn as to what is allowed and what is not. 100PP for the major glitches sub-category, you will be allowed to use glitch items to set any trigger possible, provided that all 100 points are gained legitimately (think what Azure said like OoT 100% where you can write items into your inventory, but must still obtain them from their source). Any NMG ruleset will not allow the textbox storage glitch to be used whatsoever, including Birdramon wrong warps.
The decision was made when it was realised that there really is no merit to 50 PP glitched being on a leaderboard. One thing I neglected to think about was that 50 PP does not mean anything when it isn't Any%, which the glitches essentially make void anyway. As much as I personally like the benefits of adding some glitches to the category and disallowing others, it doesn't really have a place on any leaderboard. I will still likely route and do runs of it just for fun, but they won't be submitted in any case. Maybe if others do the same, it could be placed as a misc category (Any% no waterfall skip or something like that? idk) but it's very unlikely.
Another factor is that for the glitched category rulesets, as there are parts of the glitch where not even Bizhawk can accurately emulate the glitch, emulator runs will be completely prohibited from being submitted to those boards. They will still be able to submit on the NMG boards under the same rulesets that they always have been however.
I want to thank everybody for their contributions to the thread and that the points you have brought up were crucial in this discussion taking place. This has been a difficult decision but I hope what has been decided is sufficient and is a good enough compromise for all of the opinions given in this thread.
P.S. I would also like to give a personal thank you to BlackWin5 and KHeartz who have given their opinions, despite stepping down from their moderator status. Both opinions have been heavily considered, and I would like to take this time to thank them for everything they have done for the leaderboards. AzureFlame4 has also recently become active and has given his opinion which has also helped greatly in the discussion.
"emulator runs will be completely prohibited from being submitted to those boards." You may want to add that to the rules as I don't see it mentioned there. The only thing regarding emulators in the any% rules is the prohibition of save states.
Also I think the rules for 100pp MG looks kind of mis-leading due to the rules being merged with 100pp NMG (Still mentioning the usage of ePSXe with nothing saying you can't use it in the MG category.)
Yeah you're right Archina, I've changed the rules accordingly.
Locking this thread now, if you have any further queries please post them on the Digimon speedrunning discord, located below, or message me there personally (Kyutora#7592).
Discord link: https://discord.gg/ThnXGG5
Thanks everybody!
