True Ending definition, DLC, and other things
3 years ago
Germany

I figured it might be useful to have a couple of explanations regarding some things that people may have questions about.

-- True End Definition --

Some people might be confused as to why Akechi's Confidant is required in the True Ending run. While it is true that simply beating Maruki gives you almost the exact same ending you will be missing a scene during the ending cinematic if you haven't maxed Akechi's Confidant, therefore not making it the "true" ending. Akechi's 3rd awakening is NOT required for this scene to trigger.

To sum it up, you'll be required to complete the following.

  • Councillor Rank 10
  • Justice Rank 10
  • Complete Maruki's Palace

-- DLC --

Similar to Persona 5, all DLC is banned from speedruns again. Some people may argue "But there's free DLC accessible for everyone" which is a fair point, but not a good reason to allow it. There's multiple reasons behind banning all DLC and not just specific ones.

  • No DLC means base game. Anybody should be able to pop in their disc or Download their game on a fresh system and be able to do a run without any extra steps required.

  • Sony's DLC system on PS4 is just really bad. There's no way to enable or disable downloading specific DLC. As soon as you own it, you'll have it. While there's a workaround for physical copies it, once again, is either all or no DLC.

  • No one will ever know what may or may not happen to certain DLC, or online services in general. This may put later runs at disadvantages if certain DLC might become unavailable.

  • Allowing DLC trivializes the run immensely, removing a lot of the actual appeal of running or routing the game for a lot of people.

Should DLC be installed on the system it won't be a problem as all of the items and costumes are stored inside the cardboard box in Joker's room. So as long as the box isn't interacted with, no DLC will be obtained. As far as DLC Persona are concerned those obviously can't be used either. While it may inconvenience fusion routes for some people it is an unfortunate side effect that can however be worked around. If a DLC Persona ends up being obtained from a fusion accident there are two choices.

  • Reload the latest save file.

  • Release the DLC Persona immediately without utilizing it in any shape or form and continue the run.

  • Everything that was DLC on Legacy versions will be considered DLC on Remaster versions as well and therefore is not allowed.

-- Version Specifics --

Legacy version runs may be performed on both, PS4 and PS5. Runs of the PS5 Remaster version however have to be submitted to the Remaster category instead.

-- Misc --

Turbo controllers may be used.

Last edit: 2022/11/15

Edited by the author 1 year ago
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