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I don't have much to say other than I'm happy to see alternate endings being added, so thanks! I hope/plan to submit my MM runs eventually... DON'T BE A TUNA HEAD! |
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Some more categories would be interesting to add. Off the top of my head we got: Dave Solo % (alright challenge but gets boring waiting for needed cutscene skip to trigger) Also came up with a meteor police variant called The Cheese Stands Alone, based on an old Magic card. Its not really competitive though. More a proof of concept than anything. |
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Dave solo run without the excessive wait time Dead end (unwinnable game state): |
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At this point in time, maybe a "NMG" or "Glitchless" category would be worth thinking about adding. How "by the book" would we be playing? I assume no New Kid exploits? What about giving green tentacle a pepsi? The programmers clearly wrote specific text for green tentacle to say when given a pepsi... Maybe they didn't know it would disappear afterwards. Would that be considered a glitch? Hmmmm... |
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With the Pepsi Pause, and I guess the 0000 door code too, the line blurs. They seem unintended by the devs but are too easy to come across in casual/novice gameplay to be classed with the dungeon doorbell skip or Tele-death glitches for example. Would it be less fun if there were separate, tiered strictness categories (any%>pepsi required>meteor mess required>100%/all obstacles)? We could carve out a lot of space on the board for different configurations but where to start? |
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Now that a good amount of us seem to be getting the Dr. Fred skip down, the playing field seems to be about ready to go for contesting some new alternate endings that require it. Pardon any redundancy here from other threads, but here's a compiled list of proposed additional speedrun categories: Michael Ending/Glitchless (There's enough waiting built into the Michael ending that glitches seem to save a negligible amount of time) Triple Threat (Talkshow/Meteor Police w/ Weird Edsel launch) Talkshow w/ Weird Edsel Launch (no Meteor Police) Super Hamsteak% (any% w/ extra turn and Hamsteak ending) Meteor Police/Hamsteak% Talkshow/Hamsteak% Final Fortune (any% w/ extra turn & meltdown ending) Dead End% (Unwinnable w/o game over) Feed Meteor to Plant% Dave Solo % 100% (we'll have to iron out how to define this) |
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Personally I am against "flooding" the leaderboards with miscellaneous categories, especially if there is no more than one runner. Concering how to define Glitchless I would prefer if the developer lab code (4x0) was banned. |
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Yeah, we gotta actually have runners willing to attempt something to make room for it on the leaderboard. I hope once there's enough runners submitting any% with the new strats that they'll use the same tricks to go for the real strange stuff. If something's gonna remain uncontested though, I agree it would be kind of a waste to recognize here. Regarding glitchless, your proposed door code restriction seems reasonable. Michael run vid title updated. |
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This is basically a load of nonsense that isn't what it looks like. Only Cheese in the inventory, You Won The Game displaying with music, but it's not the mythical Cheese Stands Alone ending, just comical timing during post-game exploration. TL;DR Getting caught by Purple Tentacle is not a game winning skip but it can be dressed up as such if you cut enough context out. |
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