See image below but I can upload the spreadsheet easily, just ask!

Each run has 2 lines, the one on the top is the time in the video and the one at the bottom is just a calculation of the time of the video minus the start, so you have RT at the bottom. The lines with dates and time are just my runs to compare the difference between RT and GT.

I start counting when a button has been clicked like Make Paperclip or Lower or Raise and stops when reached 100% like it's been discussed in another thread. Some small mistakes by the moderators, here's the most important ones:

marcf999 : RT should be 1h43m56s (I've asked it 17d ago but still no reply in another thread)

strawdonkey : RT should be 2h23m11s

jeli : RT should be 1h57m22s

vivafringe : RT should be 2h04m43s

waltyuen : RT should be 2:08:03

BaguetteSensei : RT should be 2:20:03

JJ : IGT should be 2:26:26 and RT 2:27:59

And then some other mistakes and some of my comments :

Elipsis

This run is clearly Patch 0 and not Patch 2 because in his run he had to go to 50 Solar Farms and not 30 to get Momentum Project. It's just like vivafringe which is already Patch 0.

Geoper

Notice the mouse movement just after 00:54, that is clearly AHK / TAS. Script went wrong and he started back with the ENTER key at 1:12. Personally, I would ask Geoper to make another run because who knows what the script does in the whole run. It's a good run in position 9 but it's an easy to reproduce run. I actually don't think he actually cheated, might have been a script for something else but it's clearly established that you cannot use a script in this game.

GermanSpaceAce

When he reach 100% in Space Exploration, the console message of IGT appears exactly 11s later. It's unique, never seen that before. He reached 100k and the console message showed by the same second, which it was it should be. And it's weird because his last Strategic Modeling before he ends, the message shows at the same time after Round 64. His computer is probably lagging. Not important I would say but worth mentioning.

Christopho, jeli, Veloso, SteveTheBartender, homeknop, RiaCorvidiva, planetcarter

Those are uniques, they all have an IGT higher than RT. This, I don't think it's supposed to happen. Something is going on here. You get a low IGT by interacting in the game but Kragnir TAS run still have an IGT lower than RT by 3s and his script is clicking non-stop the whole run faster than a human can do. I haven't been able to reproduce this. Would be interested in knowing what other people think, maybe I'm missing something?

Kragnir TAS run : youtube.com/watch?v=xQLRGZ3BIsY

RatHound, AprilSR, MissDesGames

Videos unavailable. Cannot see them. That is a gray zone on this website. At one point the moderators approved them. But for the rest of us, we did not and we haven't seem them. Considering I've already found quite a few mistakes, the chance of having a mistake on those runs are not small. Moderators should try to reach them and ask them to put the videos back or make another run. At the end of the day, they all did over 2h both RT and IGT so those runs are not record breaking. RatHound was 7y ago, it's a possibility he was on Patch 0.

More discussion here: https://www.speedrun.com/forums/the_site/uor1k#q78iz

Esth

I will finish with this run. It's probably a hack in my opinion. Profile has only one other run from 7y ago in position #8 for World of Warcraft Legion: Archive(2016) from Twitch and content unavailable. His second speedrun record is this game with the youtube video available but Comments turned off. His youtube video was created May 19, 2022 and has only one video. And guess what, his record was added 2022-05-20, just one day later. He made a youtube account for the sole purpose of this. This is so suspect. His speedrun profile is empty. So he is not well know, no notoriety. No audio in the video and we don't see him/her playing. This is a web browser game so easy to cheat. His Investments is really lucky, it is actually possible to do but the chances would be very high. If he had more notoriety, I wouldn't say anything but this is not the case.

His time and the money:

• 35:48 42m
• 35:50 55m
• 35:52 66m
• 35:55 75m
• 36:02 88m
• 37:07 96m
• 36:10 112m
• 36:12 135m
• 36:17 140m
• 36:27 150m
• 36:30 160m

Clearly not as fast as this one here : youtube.com/watch?v=eBxsnP9JNmk

But this one's using TAS and Luck Manipulation at the maximum (cheat). Still, I find some similarity at 40m by getting around 10m every tick.

I bet if you flag the video has Hack, he will never say anything by trying to prove it is legit.

Spreadsheet

I agree with superhiero that having both time is important in the Leaderboards but I don't agree with him saying that computer specs makes a difference. It does make a difference but not that much (unless in some very rare exception like I found out with Firefox but at this point, just learn and make another run). And then, I did some testing with Edge in Lowest versus Highest Priority, doesn't make much of a difference. On top of that, slow computer hardware and old clunky web browser doesn't impact much of the game because the proof is there in the Leaderboards, look at runs at 7y old, their IGT is close to RT.

I agree with Kragnir that IGT is not accurate. It's a fun timer though. You can have a good conversation with AI about it to learn about it in this game. IGT goes up depending on what you do in the game, totally different from RT. For example, Eliipsis run is RT 04:52:31 and IGT 2:55:08, huge difference but it's mainly because he took bathroom breaks and was just waiting in the game while doing absolutely nothing (except smelling his hair, he must have a very good smelling shampoo). RT gets higher but IGT barely move because he is not interacting with the game.

On the other side with Kragnir run of TAS limited at 30 actions per second, it has a difference of 3s only. Available @ youtube.com/watch?v=9Yxtud2lfhg

If fitz1889 is still here, don't use Firefox to have a better difference between IGT and RT and also don't stall, you need to click on stuff all the time, make Paperclips all the time, don't stall. I have a consistent 2m07 to 2m31 difference in about 140 runs.

I'm about to release a spreadsheet with all the runs, the times and the difference between RT and IGT with my comments. Stay tuned before taking any actions, coming hopefully this week-end.

But right now with the information I have. I would clearly vote to make the default timer RT and not IGT like it is right now because it's not that really different with different computers and different browsers even after 7y.

Other games using IGT is Celeste and Metal Gear Solid 3 but totally different from a web browser. A lot more accurate.

Can't really comment on it because it is not Patch Version 2. Momentum is 20k and not 30k Creativity and it's not 50 Solar Farms but 30. And way too many big mistakes all over. Quality is really bad even at max 720p. Those people chatting at start are really funny and interesting! Use ExtraTricky tool for Yomi, it's a must for next run. You have a good grasp of the game, you can easily do 2h with by just watching other good runs.

marcf999 Time is still wrong in Leaderboards

As for the Investments, I've found another player with a crazy boost very fast. At this point, I would say it's probably legit because there's a lot of randomness in Investments but still worth investigating and having a discussion about, would really love to hear other's opinion.

In details for marcf999 :

• 48:51 416m
• 48:53 361m
• 48:56 391m
• 48:58 417m
• 49:01 469m
• 49:03 550m
• 49:06 618m
• 49:09 626m

A total boost from 48:53 @ 361m to 49:09 @ 626m is 16.5m/s

And in details for strawdonkey :

• 54:39 387m
• 54:42 333m
• 54:43 379m
• 54:46 407m
• 54:49 410m
• 54:51 473m
• 54:54 454m
• 54:55 436m
• 54:56 503m
• 54:59 531m
• 55:02 624m
• 55:06 722m
• 55:09 805m
• 55:11 952m
• 55:14 1116m

A total boost from 54:42 @ 333m to 55:14 @ 1116m is 23.7m/s

marcf999 in third position has a wrong time, the IGT of 1:36:51 is good but the Time should be 1:43:56 which is what I calculated. One second more or less depending on how precise you want to calculate.

Also, look at 48:56 in his video, was at 391m in investments and went up to 618m at 49:06, that is 10 seconds only for a total of 227m profits in 10 seconds. Only with Investment Engine level 6.

I've done 115 runs up to now, never saw that happened. That is a really big crazy boost. Even Esth, the World Record doesn't show that.

This game is extremely easy to cheat. Players like marcf999 having only two runs in the same game (the other is obsolete but still can be found in his profile) and no other runs on speedrun.com and turning off comments in his youtube video doesn't give him any notoriety.

I do not know how other games on speedrun.com that can be easily cheated handle this situation but I would like to hear anybody's opinion.

This is already the forum and there is a place for Guides that can you add stuff.

You make good points with Any% Glitched, would help to detect wrong runs that someone cheated since it's running in a web browser and it's really easy to cheat, everything is just javascript.

You have my vote to add this new category but I'm not the moderator here.

If cheated right, I would guess you can finish the game in 2 minutes. While it would be fun to do, I don't see how relevant it would be to add a new category where everyone would have the same time.

If you think it's relevant, make a video and share it first.

I did the tests with a few browsers in another thread except Safari, don't have macOS. Turns out they all pretty much have the same speed. Only exception is to NOT use Firefox :)

Reaching 10,000 is a simple process, nothing much involved. Everyone will be reaching it at around 3m 57s. Same for 15 upgrades, simple process. I wouldn't vote for that.

You are totally right. It doesn't make sense to have the same category by using ENTER or not.

At the same time, who doesn't want to play with ENTER? Else that will be a lot of clicks. Your hand will feel tired soon, yay for carpal tunnel syndrome, not sure how much you can click for the whole game :-)

Especially the first 20m or so until you reach Hadwiger. And what about Quantum Computing or Harvest/Wire Drones in Stage 2 or Processors in Stage 3, it's doable but a lot of work.

I would guess that you can do it in like 180m but that is a lot of clicks. Sounds like a fun challenge but not many that will do it.

If they do put this category, I would recommend a camera on the and of the player to make sure the clicks do match the screen.

I take it back about the different CPS from different web browsers. No idea how I was able to pull those numbers. I did one more run in Edge and was surprised how I was not hitting the 42 CPS so after the run I did more test and all web browsers are the same (except Firefox like I said before).

All tests are done in Incognito / Private

No TV Out (my computer is plugged into a TV)

Opera : 32-34 CPS

Brave : 31-34 CPS

Chrome : 32-34 CPS

Edge : 31-34 CPS

With TV Out

Opera : 32-34 CPS

Brave : 31-33 CPS

Chrome : 32-35 CPS

Edge : 32-34 CPS

With TV Out + OBS + Snaz

Opera : 32-34 CPS

Brave : 32-34 CPS

Chrome : 32-34 CPS

Edge : 32-34 CPS

At the end of the day, it's pretty much the same.

Hi everyone, I guess everyone knows that in a web browser, when you click and release a button then press ENTER (which is permitted) it's a legit auto-clicker in this game. Some are saying 30 CPS. Well, I'm not so sure about that. Load the game in different browsers and test it when the game starts with 0 Autoclippers and empty the first 1000 wires. Just use ENTER on Make paperclips.

The results are :

Opera : 31-35 CPS

Brave : 32-34 CPS

Chrome : 40-42 CPS

Edge : 40-42 CPS

Winner is Edge and Chrome and by quite a lot if you calculate the difference in percentage compared to others. So I would recommend using one or the other. Running latest Windows 11 here and all web browsers latest as of 2025-05-20.

Also, I'm not that sure but I don't think it harms to go in "Keyboard Properties" and you can set Repeat delay and Repeat rate at Short and Fast. If there is a difference, it's really a very short one though.

I asked ChatGPT about a configuration of web browser of Repeat delay and it said there is none.

And that brings me to my second subject, go look at different people starts that goes from 0.25 price per clips to 0.4. First one is Esth with the World Record, he goes from 0.25 to 0.06 without any delay. Also look in Stage 3, he goes from 0 to 6 Combat back and forth multiple times without delay. A simple AHK script with right-click or the Functions Key F1 to F12 could do something like that. Is still permitted? It might not look like a lot but since you are doing it so many multiple times, I think it does make a difference. I haven't tested macOS with Safari, maybe someone can test it?

Next up is Kragnir, going from 0.25 to 0.04 and has a delay, all fine.

Next up is marc999, there is a slight delay, seems fine to me, especially considering you can also click at the same time to give it a little boost.

Next up is ExtraTricky, goes from 0.25 to 0.2 without any delay.

I'm wondering what's up with this delay and what everyone else is thinking? I think it's worth investigating.

So if you are using Edge, using the ENTER key, going from 40-42 CPS and you click at the same time really fast, you are actually going faster than 30 CPS. Is that okay?

Lastly, I think it might be a good thing to raise the Zoom level to 120% in the web browser, make this tiny Run button bigger, I would guess this is legit.

The latest run from lackattack of 1h30m09s which is in the No ABBA category should actually be in the ABBA allowed category

Here i am making progress, slowly, very slowy, let's get some stats:

5h18m, 4h27m, 4h03m, 3h28m, 3h21m, 3h06m, 2h55m, 2h50m, 2h48m and a lot in between and I can't figure out why some speed runners are going so fast in Clips, Operations and Creativity.

Turns out: don't use Firefox. Edge and Chrome are going faster.

I filled out a bug report : https://webcompat.com/issues/150118

Knowing open-source, will probably be fix in 10 years if lucky and they don't close the ticket lol

So was wondering maybe it would be a good thing to add the browser and version in each run?

And also was wondering, maybe there is another browser Opera, Vivaldi, Palemoon, Safari and a ton of others that might go faster and give an advantage?

Old post but using Enter is a lot more efficient and fast. Might be why you are not in Leaderboards. I can't see why using an autoclicker slower than what is permitted with Enter would be wrong. We can clearly see the rate of how many clicks or Enter is being done in the stats of the game.

My bad, thank you very much for the information. It is true, it says (Demo) in the title. I don't find a page here on speedrun.com for the actual game / title. Are you the one in charge? Can you create one? I just made a record im my opinion.

Well it is true that the goal of the game is to get 100 socks only but the first position, you don't even see the frog at the end, then the second position you see the frog and the video just stop there. AFAIK, for a valid speedrun, you need the see the end credits.

Any mods around here? All of those speed runs are invalids because nobody completed the game. After around 5 minutes, you do kiss a frog but it's the wrong one, the game must be completed much much much farther away. You know. The princess is in another castle.

There is no end credits in any of those runs.

Here's a complete one total of about 45m, it doesn't seem real but it's a true complete run:

Trying multiple different things but it is not working. If I save after starting the game, the first level is always the same but the second level is always different. Any more hints? Do you have to play the whole game, take screenshots of every level and restart the game trying to start the game at the right frame? I'm missing something here.