"dupe/skip", Anti I'm sorry, we cannot instapass Los Sepulcros, yet. Kappa Just kidding.

I forgot how to start FK with om0, I just know that you can. Quote from ages ago [quote=lelreset] so if you're doing this dumb dupe the route would probably be : Flight school -> grab rustler -> park rustler near bike school -> grab phonecall -> take off with the rustler again and go to maverick (or do the opposite and get maverick first? not sure) -> hold call through fender ketchup ( during the mission get out of the car and start holding call, then pass the mission) -> dupe explosive situation. [/quote]

Just try everything.^^ Either like in Jizzy(cs mission), or just holding until you sit in the car.

You can try taking it over during Los Desperados. I have never tested that.

Feels fine to me, using both the bike and a - no clue how those things are called :D the cover nearby - as cover. You can avoid the despawn like at the start of Doberman/Outrider.

You get off the bike, wait for the call, cancel it, kill him, sit through the cutscene.

I cannot remember getting any spawns ever in months of running. The valets move within a very small time-frame, there is no time for customers to spawn, let alone block the "parking zone".

Can I have a video?

Edit: Nonsense, no customers spawn because I block the "parking zone" with my car. That does not prevent the D.A. from re-spawning - it never has for me, anyways. Customer cars existing does prevent it (no matter if they get stuck in the parking zone or elsewhere).

I have forgotten what turns customers into "non-customers" - killing should.

My success rate is only 5 out of 7 so far. Since I use a teleporter, I always park in the same spot: the center of the spawn location. My angle is also always the same - I don't know what it is, anymore.

Can I have a bunch of SCRLogs, please? The log file is cleared every time you restart the game. Maybe it is necessary but not sufficient to skip it on the second frame for you - or even in general. http://www.speedrun.com/post/8qax4

I had him despawn right in front of my eyes, though. ^^ I never killed him earlier than necessary, since. But actually, I am not certain if that was before 0 star strats... Back then I used a Catalina call (the main purpose was not skipping High Noon but duping Misappropriation, Flight School and Black Project with one om0 setup).

Anyways, you had one person vanish 2s or so after killing him, so you really should collect the dossier asap. :D

Work in progress

I'd prefer if people post into the specific threads if they have problems (e.g. the 0 star strat has its own thread). I compiled an incomplete list of problems people had with solutions.

Separated by segments (LS, Badlands, etc.) [section=General] Cesar calls at trolly times: http://www.speedrun.com/post/h9l3p How to avoid? Unknown, but I did some research here: http://gtaforums.com/topic/844233-what-are-the-things-that-if-failed-count-as-a-mission-failure/#entry1068550014

Planes thread ("0 stars glitch") teleporting you (total mystery) http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/thread/1alhj

[section=Duping] Duping Setup: Duping Setup Missions: Quarry: "you cannot work here with a wanted level" (way to make the best of the situation found) http://www.speedrun.com/post/yvg5c

Calls: Call not coming in (Bloodbowl duping setup) (solved) http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/thread/4cxb2

calls dropping on final cutscene skip (or mission pass?) when using a button other than shift to hold calls Use left shift, no problems have been reported related to that (unless you use Win98-compatibility^^) http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/thread/aw76v

Mission starting twice when you did not want them to example: Jizzy cutscene mission duped (probably solved) http://www.speedrun.com/post/dytsk

[section=Los Santos]

[section=Badlands]

[section=San Fierro] Jizzy(om0) Mission failure when blowing up the stretch (solved) http://www.speedrun.com/post/4f27o

[section=LV/Desert] Monster http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/thread/egq5l The mission only starts once (solved) Softlock inside the "tutorial cutscene" (understood, more or less)

High Jack/Verdant Meadows duping call getting stuck -> om1 after starting High Jack -> no duping possible (solved) http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/thread/8mqxg

Misappropriation

1. Mission failure because the second dossier vanishes(should be avoidable, so a solution is not desperately needed) http://www.speedrun.com/post/dytsk

2. No one wants to pick up the dossier. No video or SCRLog, no investigations. No-one except for me ever had this problem?

[section=RTLS] End of the Line 2: CJ stuck inside Balla after the crack palace blew up: "Pause buffering" fixed it in one instance.

Los Desperados Homies bailing "randomly" - let's hope there is a pattern to it. :D (unsolved) http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/thread/8tjbg

Misappropriation: The only path to "dossier destroyed in the explosion" is that the guy who picked up the dossier despawns.¤

You killed two people in pretty much the same spot. Afterwards, there is only one corpse there. My untested guess is that the game just de-spawned the second guard with the dossier since there was already a corpse lying around there.

After the first mission pass, the guards like to despawn. Probably they are treated like normal peds? So keep them in your view, don't go too far away.

If you don't aim at the guard with the dossier, he will not shoot you, so I'd kill everyone except him, then kill him standing right next to him.

¤ for technical people who might correct me. 056D: actor 80@(91@,10i) defined // FALSE -> mission failed 0085: 91@ = 49@ // (int) is very near the line "You were too slow. One of the guards has grabbed the stuff."

Jizzy: You took the call in the pre-mission cutscene (the one where CJ walks towards the building, then it fades, then the intro cs starts). That made CJ stop, so he stayed inside the marker.

Unsolved problem, bad solution is saving/loading after SMB http://www.speedrun.com/post/ij2fq

4 posts that belong here: http://www.speedrun.com/post/vwqzz

I use a heuristic in my runs: when the valet in the ZR waits for the red light and then gets to the garage quickly, I block one spot, if he takes some time or I am slow, I block both.

First, you skipped on the first frame. It only starts twice if you skip later than that. After that, CJ left the marker. Finally, you skipped too late, the second instance started too early.

Afaik, it is frame perfect, you need to skip on the second frame of the cutscene. That's why it confuses me that anyone could get a 100% success rate - or does it sometimes only start once for you as well? A bunch of scrlogs would be nice, reset.

I decided to "remove myself" out of this discussion.

Skip the cutscene before she dies. I forgot to emphasize the importance of this in my post. :(

The final CTB cs cancels calls. You can get another call in the "wait 400" after the cutscene, and hold that. That seems to be inconsistent for Mh - maybe that is because he did not have any high priority calls in the failed attempts (it is complicated to explain^^) - or I made a mistake or things are complicated.

This should be faster.

Should be slower than the proper call holding route, though.

What's the timing on that?

If you like pain you can try hitting the lamp post to get over the bannister inside the car.

How well does this work for other people? I plan to look into this again.

You can avoid the despawn area at the start of the mission. It is only as big as the one in Trucking, IIRC. After 3 minutes of not being inside it, the vehicle despawns - that is due to the exe, independent of missions. I did not read the exe code since I don't know how to do that. There is a slim chance that there is some way to keep the vehicle even after 3 minutes besides entering it again. If there is, you cannot get into two monster trucks, since the game only "remembers" your last two vehicles. In SA, unlike VC/III, mission vehicles can "push" vehicles out of these two slots.