Yeah, i don't think it would be a long term solution - starsmiley is just trying to see if there are people in the community who want ILs enough to put the effort into making a leaderboard, and then also if there are other people who would submit runs.

Basically if a leaderboard is made and used that shows the mods that it is worth setting up one (so they will make one and transfer those runs over), and if nobody can be bothered to make a leaderboard then we can stop complaining about not having one :)

Also if barely anyone does IL runs like the mods are expecting the google doc wont be messy, just empty.

Cool thx

Hi, i was thinking of running this game because i <3 it so much, but i dont have time to do a full run so i was going to do the galaxy RTA runs.

My question is, does it matter what order i do the stars in? Eg doing the comets before the main levels because they would be the most likely for me to reset on.

I think what it is really is that the mods from this game and 3das are both saying "its not our job to set up an IL leaderboard and then moderate it, go and ask the mods from the other game to do it".

(No offence mods, i know the last thing you all want is a new IL run coming in for you to moderate every 5 seconds)

Glitch hunters be like

Is that a challenge?

From what i understand people have been asking the all stars community to add ils for a while, but the mods have been saying that ils already exist here so they dont need to set them up too.

Also they (fairly) say that if people started doing il runs it would be a lot of extra moderating for them - 3d all stars only has 4 mods overall compared to the 8 here just for this game.

Well if you want to know what characters and route for each level, watch that level in the wr. You have to get everything anyway and you can only play each level in order pretty much so there is not as much routing as BF, and you can practice each level individually.

Oh ok, so it probably would be faster to leave the 50th shine until the 5th cycle and use the rain time to get that one.

Or equally if you normally had time to get all 50 by the end of cycle 4 that extra wait time could be a safety net for getting shines if you messed up and missed a cycle earlier

So in Vallu's 28:24 they were very close to having 49 shines at the end of cycle 4, so i was wondering what would happen if you got 50 shines before the fourth bowser fight? Would the 50-shine version of the gigabell activate and let you go straight into the 5th bowser fight,(saving ages of cutscenes) or would you just have to do the 4th bowser fight and then wait 20 seconds for bowser to respawn?

I dont think anyone here is accusing that run particularly of being spliced, and therefore comments on how trustworthy people are or how this run would not have been spliced are completely irrelevant.

Obviously this isnt really our argument seen as none of us here are mods, but i do think that if the mods thought there was a risk of splicing, or an important part of the screen that needed to be visible, they could put that in the rules to avoid future arguments like this?

I am not telling the mods what to do (this run must be fine because they accepted it), just making a suggestion that by setting a standard here for how much of the screen needs to be visible they can avoid more arguments like this.

oh lol i never realised that document already existed. Maybe you could put it in guides on speedrun.com so that other people can find it in the future?

Ok so having looked back at the runs which seemed to have shorter cycles, both of those runs did not get as many shines as CMFP's run during the first bowser cycle and the length of cutscenes they missed matches up with the time saved - this supports your theory that the cycle timer does not go down during cutscenes.

If anyone wanted to just start the game and do nothing to see how long it takes bowser to appear with no cutscenes that would be very appreciated...

Yeah i watched the video and decided to try timing a few actual speedruns from shine 1 to bowser appearing, and my results line up with your video - after getting shine 5 the cycle starts progressing twice as fast, to give a total length of ~ 360 seconds for one bowser cycle (excluding the fact that the timer doesnt go down in cutscenes)

The problem is there were a couple of runs which dont follow this pattern, and im not sure why this is. Both Fir's 33:32 any% and FateAwait's 1:24:09 100% collect shine 5 much later than CMFP's 29:47 run, but regardless of this bowser spawns at exactly 4:25 in all three runs.

(Following the idea of 1 second lost before shine 5 = 0.5 seconds longer until bowser spawns you would expect bowser to spawn at around 4:33 in Fir's run and 4:42 in Fate's run)

Also, do i need both screens in view or just top screen? (Sorry for reusing an old thread but i thought it would fit in well here)

I agree that getting a program to generate blueprint codes during a run for your specific situation would not be allowed, and even if it was the program would have to be made available to everyone running the game for fairness.

However, (correct me if i'm wrong) i don't see any reason why you wouldn't be allowed to get a program to generate them in a practice run and save the strings for use in a later run if you get the same situation - provided that you would normally be allowed external blueprint strings in that category

No one really knows, the theory is that the developers realised that you could do this trick with a nut and fixed it but forgot that they would have to fix it for a wet nut too.

You'll get better and more consistent by playing individual levels, but you don't want to overdo any one kingdom before you're consistent with all the others - being able to not die in later kingdoms will save much more time than perfecting DSS in cascade!

Yeah, Ideally I would have audio it's just the way my 3ds is on a stand I can't plug an audio line in. I'll try to fix it but it's good to know that if I do a run without audio before then it won't be rejected

Do you need game audio in the recording?

Maybe they thought it was a category where you try to get one apple in the fastest time? ¯_(ツ)_/¯