@If_And_While my whole reply was to "Honestly, deleting the PC version from the leaderboards is the most right decision" It has nothing to do with "What a complicated game we are playing." It was irrelevant to my whole argument why deleting the entire PC board is a mistake.

@Vendettavic I apologize if that was how your took my comment, that wasn't my intention.

If you want to delete the board, we should just wipe every single category and start fresh. So every runner has a fair chance, regardless of platform.

@Dimension_Bomber How is deleting the PC leaderboards the correct decision? We have all been using a fair form of tracking time for years now, we just weren't looking in the right place. IGT has always been correct, we just trusted the old guard that they were accurate that it was broken. This decision doesn't involve door skip at all and shouldn't be even considered for this choice, that is something for a later date.

My issue with wiping the whole board is the countless hours EACH and EVERY runner has put into this. If we move to IGT, what is stopping everyone from just resubmitting their PB's. We have valid runs and a correct IGT in all of them. It's a childish decision to flip the table, everyone should just grow up and just accept that IGT has and always will be correct.

@Vendettavic How is it fair to Nazzareno that Xtra's game was marginally faster? I think it is more unfair of people losing/gaining time do to the uptime of the PC session. You know what doesn't change between their runs? IGT. It is equal to both of them, neither had an advantage on the other. It is the one variable that is constant between every single run on the leaderboard. No matter what way you go, someone is getting shafted. My vote is to go in the favor of what is the most fair value between all runs not just for WR contention.

Someone should make a separate thread and a google docs for everyone to put their vote on instead of this for clarity

If IGT is/has been working fine, I would say the correct thing would be going to IGT for ruling the board. The fact we can just run the game whenever we want sounds like a fresh of breath air and not feel like we are a ticking time bomb with playing the game. I do feel for Xtra however, with losing the WR by 1 second </3

Another benefit of changing to IGT is experiences like this. My first sub 50 PB I suffered from slow underwater and had an IGT of like 52:06 (Not 100% sure but was faster than Dimensions IGT.) It really sucked and was pretty demoralizing losing that time for something that wasn't skill related, and moving to IGT would eliminate any else from having to experience that feeling again.

It also opens us up to keep the current board open., and move it to "PC Legacy." If someone wants to try competing on old software they can choose to do so, without worry that someone will find some way to increase the FPS and have an unfair time.

I just checked the autosplitter, it has the IGT splits saved, so we actually probably won't lose anything TBH @Nazzareno.

I do agree with @Nazzareno. You could add the timer after the run and there isn't really a way to verify that, so it doesn't really prevent cheating (For everything but PC.) I would say its preferred to have it, but not mandatory (except PC where it's mandatory.) That is just my two cents.

Holy shit this is the perfect category for Xtra, no Ellie tilt

@RapixOnGaming I think its a fine optional thing, its probably the fastest way to do it. Does anyone have a save with it unlocked? :p

RapixOnGaming big list of requirements looks about right to me what the category should require. Only question I see sticking out is verifying that everything has been purchased and/or picked up. Dino files is super easy since at end screen it tells you X/11, weapons you can show at final Regina/Dylan shop (Silo for Regina & Facility Entrance). That just leaves the blue disks, which I'm unsure of a good way except showing all files after the final one is grabbed. Other option is for whoever is verifying to keep note of everything. I think the ammo upgrades don't matter, do they even have a realistic limit to hit? All Bosses seems so-so to me, but if others do want it, I would probably give it a try.

I also think this could be a fun category so it has my vote.

@RapxOnGaming Okay that makes more sence if its just for clarification. This literally changes nothing for me so I am all for these changes.

I am all for these settings (however I think the Show Display FPS isn't very usefull.) I already have all these settings selected (besides show display fps) so nothing should change for me.