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Home Alone (NES) Forum  /  New category for movement freeze glitch?

DweditDwedit

United States

  DweditDwedit
12 Jan 2020, 15:12

With the new glitch that lets you freeze Harry and Marv, I'm guessing that should be a separate category than the usual runs where you actually have to play the game.

 

MCAaronIceMCAaronIce

United States

  MCAaronIceMCAaronIce
13 Jan 2020, 16:01

You could have a 'glitchless' category, although some runs exploit the AI by walking in and out of the door repeatedly, so is that a glitch? Given that it's all the same time and there's only about 3 runs on the board that are glitchless, I don't see much benefit to doing that personally.

 

DweditDwedit

United States

  DweditDwedit
13 Jan 2020, 22:20

Just saying that outright freezing the opponents is completely different than taking advantage of poorly designed AI. In a chasing-type game (such as Pac Man) where there is no chase, and only a time limit to stop you, there's nothing left to do.

 

Rayquaza911Rayquaza911

Canada

  Rayquaza911Rayquaza911
21 Jan 2020, 17:57 (edited: 21 Jan 2020, 21:55)

Either way, you are still "running" any%, the time is exactly the same. No one is forced to do glitches, but I don't believe choosing to not use them for arbitrary reasons warrants its own category.

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Player209Player209

  Player209Player209
29 Mar 2021, 17:11 (edited: 29 Mar 2021, 17:27)

I think there is the not that what he meaned. Second category is the one, where run ends on last button input if you winned the game (if no button press and you loose - it not counts) - these rules is quite similar to TAS rules - or either on moment when both Harry and Marv gets stuck. So if you managed to find special spot or freeze Harry and Marv faster - you will get lower time.
In that category, if use input frame stop, to make time count easier, recommended usage of special program what shows button inputs, or just showing both the game and button presses on your joystick with camera outside.
Maybe there may be third category (Game Ower%), but...

 

LefloicLefloic

(He/Him)

Québec

  LefloicLefloic
30 Mar 2021, 13:50

Something like a "stuck%" ? You're last split is when the second Wet Bandit gets stuck in the wall? It would be highly dependent on Marv's RNG but could be a Misc. category I guess. I'm actually curious to try a couple times.

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obiiwanobiiwan

Croatia

  obiiwanobiiwan
30 Mar 2021, 13:52

I'd give it a go too

 

noisepolicenoisepolice

Ohio, USA

  noisepolicenoisepolice
31 Mar 2021, 12:47

I didnt have plans to ever touch this cart again, but with another category...

 

Player209Player209

  Player209Player209
31 Mar 2021, 19:13

yes. With new category there will be sense to even try speedrunning this game. In old category literally evereone can make new WR, and making time better is nearly impossible, if not comepletely impossible. This also can be applied to "Home Alone 1 Genesis" because it also have simular glitch of freezing Wet Bandits and waiting ± 20 minutes.

 

sYnsYn

United States

  sYnsYn
31 Mar 2021, 19:26

It seems like the new misc category that makes the most sense is keeping the glitch, but stop the timer the moment the last wet bandit gets frozen. Which becomes a bit of an RNG race - but could have competition now and maybe lead to different strats.

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LefloicLefloic

(He/Him)

Québec

  LefloicLefloic
7 Apr 2021, 02:26 (edited: 7 Apr 2021, 02:27)

Just tried a quick "wet%" run. Forgot to record on a 1:30.42 run and did a 1:32.35.
It's highly dependent on RNG but I guess we could get an optimized Marv movement. Still fun!

Is it possible to do a movie%, you'd need to get the same traps from the movie as quickly as possible 😛

 

obiiwanobiiwan

Croatia

  obiiwanobiiwan
17 Dec 2021, 09:40

Bump, holidays 2021 are craving for a new category 😃

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