Minor Strats/Route Talk
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9 years ago
Latvia

Alright, so as everybody knows i accidently discovered that you can spawn in a suit after "Daddys little girl." In order to do that you need to blow yourself up after buying hipster clothes adn leaving the shop, other place is after you leave Lifeinvaders office, but that spawn you next to the other exit and you dont have your car so its much slower.

I am still convinced there is something else triggering it because in Any% i dont use grenades at those spots and i still spawn in a suit.

Utrecht, Netherlands

I've got a quick question about the Jewel Store heist...Anyone knows what triggers this mission fail? (roughly at 1h14m46s in the video if the timed link doesn't work).

Obviously the fact that there's only 1 biker, but that's always the case when you do the Sewer skip (I think?) and it doesn't always mission fail...

Didn't want to start a whole new topic for this, so I guess this topic felt the most appropriate.

United States

This is really really cool ryedawg, but one thing. What about killing yourself at Friend Request? Does this tech work with a bike? Or do we still have to kill ourselfs some other way to get a suit?

Latvia

So after minisub we wait few seconds for Steves message to activate Blitz play intro. At that moment heist is available already i think (if not then you receive it after Blitz intro message).

After Merryweather Heist we would use taxi to get to Blitz intro which wouldnt cost time since we use taxi to reach Towtruck anyway.

Then pray for a trashtruck on the road and after that do towtruck with taxi if not on the road. (ultimate rng hype).

So now it gets interstring, i dont know ehre Franklin would be on the map sinbce order is messed up at this point but i guess we could call a taxi and use to reach boiler suits, masks and Hotel assasination. After Hotel assasination agaion taxi to Bltiz play.

The whole point of this is to get trahstruck on the street which saves 2 min, but i dont know if this route would be optimal to save time and if 2 min timesave is worth sacrificing time somewhere else.

Norfolk, England
zoton2
He/Him, She/Her, They/Them
8 years ago

I did a test run a couple of hours ago (from Fame or Shame) and this is what I found:

  • After minisub, I had to wait a minute or so for Merryweather Heist to spawn.
  • After Merryweather Heist, Blitz Intro spawned quite quickly.
  • I got a trash truck on the road, but I had to do a little bit more looking than I did in PB/WR, although it still wasn't that for away. I also saw a couple spawn on the roads nearby after that.
  • I couldn't get the tow truck with Trevor. Every time I taxied to it, the mission just disappeared. Switching to Franklin and using him worked though, so I don't know if Trevor can do it or not(?)
  • I can't remember where Franklin was when I switched to him, but it doesn't matter because I would usually call a taxi after Boiler Suits anyway, but in this case I could keep the one I already called.

The main reason for this route change was because both me and witwix (doing runs today) had Merryweather heist unlock after minisub, but not Blitz Intro, so there's no reason to sit around for it. Witwix even sat around for 4 minutes or so and it never unlocked, so I don't know what's up with it.

Norfolk, England
zoton2
He/Him, She/Her, They/Them
8 years ago

So from the other test run I did yesterday evening on my stream, this time Blitz Intro unlocked before Merryweather, so I went there and did that, and afterwards was still able to find a garbage truck on the road, although that might not be consistent.

It seems like for this part, we'll have to treat the route as "non-linear" and do Blitz Intro if it unlocks, and if not, do Merryweather Heist.

Latvia

Tested grenadeless strat and its 20 seconds faster then with grenades. You loose 7 seconds on second deathwarp after Daddys little girl but if you have less then 50% HP you will die instantly after explosion and to loose the health stay under water a little longer to loose that HP.

But i am not sure about using it in Classic%, because after Dead man walking we do a deathwarp and the fastest way is by using grenade, as far as i rememmber we dont have any explosives. Are there any propane tanks? I am trying to think where else that grenade comes in handy in Classic%.

Norfolk, England
zoton2
He/Him, She/Her, They/Them
8 years ago

I think if you go just down the hill after Dead Man Walking, there's a giant tank you can shoot maybe? I forget if that actually worked or not.

Utrecht, Netherlands

Yeah that works, but it takes quite a few bullets with pistol.

Latvia

Cab is the fastest way in NMS.

Norfolk, England
zoton2
He/Him, She/Her, They/Them
8 years ago

So because my runs kept dying from the plane strats at the end of Trevor's missions (Crystal Maze/Friends Reunited) I did some thinking, some testing and some practice and just thought I'd post a video of how I do stuff, and some extra tricks I found. It might not all be as fast as it could be or whatever, but if you were to lose the plane, you will lose a lot of time from having to drive instead, so I prefer to be a little safe.

Main points:

  • This stuff was done with population density at minimum, but I don't know how much of a difference it makes.
  • When you go to land, always try to pull up. If you hit the ground at too much of an angle, your front wheel can lock up and you won't be able to take off as easily, if at all.
  • Try to park off the road or on the correct side depending on the way your facing. The chance that a car will then drive into your blades and ruin your plane, or a car being in front of you and you not being able to take off, are a lot lower.
  • The place I land in Crystal Maze (near the house) is apparently slower, but I find that way better.
  • When you enter the trailer park, if you don't get a car on the road, steal the one to the right (as you go in). If you stick to the outside and take the route I did, the first guy won't see you, meaning you won't get noticed/shot at as soon as usual.
  • In the trailer park, you can skip the cutscene when you blow them up completely by pressing the button (G by default) once you've thrown the last bomb, but before it sticks to the last trailer.
  • For the marker just outside of Los Santos, don't go into it too quickly, otherwise you will get the cutscene but your plane will continue on. I don't know how this happens, but it did for me once!
Utrecht, Netherlands

Well that'd be very interesting to see. My runs regurarly 'die' at this point, so god knows I could use some pointers there.

Utrecht, Netherlands

Flying is definitely better with a joystick yeah, you need that smooth 360 movement in the air.

United States

To mods that approve anything which isn't using an in-game timer: If a run includes the milliseconds, don't include them, change them to 000. The milliseconds feature was added for ILs which use the in-game timer. If you know the claimed time can't be accurate to the millisecond due to how it was timed, e.g., external timer stopped manually, then just ignore the milliseconds.

Edit: Forgot to uncheck "Automatically verify run" after making an edit to the milliseconds. Accidentally verified darkviper88's run by doing this. Someone who knows the long runs may want to look it over, if it matters. I normally wouldn't be verifying the longer runs.

United States

Ryley asked me to post this. Can't wait to be told it's 'not faster' when it's not about speed at this point, it's about safety.

For Carbine Rifles, R¤ got us all fucked up. So...

I did some experimenting for a few hours and realized that the area that we usually drive through anyways has MUCH lighter, further helicopter spawns than near the bridge, where we all normally shoot the guys out of the SUV.

I provided two theories in the video, but I think the theories could be expanded on and modified.

United States

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United States

I'll be honest, haven't played this game in god knows how long, but with SA having just discovered duping, I have an idea. Have we tried placing an explosive on a mission trigger and then killing ourselves on the same frame we walk into the mission trigger?

United States

@bystandertim

Sorry I'm just getting to this. When the initial mission cutscene happens, the map area is cleared.

Latvia

3 months old video but hey if someone feels to lazy to follow me here ya go

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