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  Vhoul

So I've been attempting to get WR in Low% for quite some time now, And I have, quite frankly, run up against a wall. If you have ever tried to run Low%, which few people ever have, you know that the fast kill on Stonebanks on the second last level is absolute bullshit. I have lost too many runs to this trick.
For those who are not familiar, this trick involves running past Stonebanks' railcar before he drops several sawblades on your head and throwing grenades on the right side of the railcar. The grenade throw is very consistent, but getting past the railcar is the most aggravating thing.
Naturally, I tried to find out more about this trick. I have tested this level in just about every possible way, which has involved some pretty crazy ideas. In the end, the best I can come up with is the trick is entirely random. No amount of jumping, rolling, walking backwards, screen resolution, lag, or even speedhacks were able to make this trick consistent.
I've finally given up trying to figure it out on my own. I would really appreciate it if MirrorsMind or ShadowDraft could give me any information they have on this trick.
Other than that, I am going to be making a video guide for Low% showcasing some faster strategies. If you know anything about this trick I would love to not have to claim the trick is 100% random.

 
  MirrorsMind

Sorry for replying so late, but I'm not really active anymore as speedrunning concerns. But since I'm de-rusting again, to get both of my long time WRs back, I kinda agree, that it's currently completely random. When I have time, I can also look into it further. Because it sucks, that RNG kills the run most of the time at the very end. On the other hand, are we lucky to have a really short run, so we can try more often, but that's a lame excuse.

 
  Vhoul

Big news regarding the fast kill. I found a better way. You can use the explosives that spawn just before the checkpoint to boost yourself. Which one spawns is random, but on my first attempt of the level it seems to be the propane tank most if not all the time. This one is the easiest to boost off of. The grey and red explosive barrels are quite a bit trickier to nail the timing. They grey barrels have a delayed explosion and you need to be at the right distance to not die and get a boost. The red barrels explode instantly so you need to already be standing the correct distance away. Anyways, this skip seems to be entirely skill-based now. I've been trying to improve WR for awhile now, but it won't stand much longer.

 
  MirrorsMind

You can actually boost yourself with the grenades you throw, it's extremely hard, but it works. I forgot about it, because I don't run it anymore, but as you wrote about the grenade-boost, I remembered. I tried it 2 years ago as I got the WR in the past. But not in a run though, because it's too difficult, for me at least, to pull it of while you are on PB pace. So you can theoretically boost yourself past the cutscene trigger, be really fast and faster than the railcar.

I think I discovered that boost, but never uploaded something, because I couldn't make it work consistently, so I forgot it even existed.

 
  Vhoul

I was never sure if it was possible to boost off of grenades because they blow up so fast. Although if it is possible, I'll definitely look into it. I don't think I would try grinding runs with that strategy, but I will probably try to use it as an IL strategy for a segmented run I'm putting together. I just finished a run with my new boosting strategy today and I timed it at 4:59 w/o loads. I guess I should probably put together a demo for this strategy.
Anyway, I'm done grinding Low% runs for now. If you still plan to go for WR, you're going to need my new strategies. If I remember your WR video correctly, you might want to take a look at my tutorials for Levels 1, 5, 7, and 8. Other than those I might have general consistency advice for other levels.

 
  MirrorsMind

Well, I dunno. Low% will be a much harder grind, but I'll always wanted to push it sub 5. Same with Any% only with sub 4. I'm in university now so I currently don't have enough time to grind day after day. For now, I'll de-rust on my own way and then if I'm comfortable enough, I'll look into your new strats. Thanks.