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With the current popularity of pastebins, we thought we'd try the old style of feedback thread again. There's something nice about reading other people's feedback alongside your own, so let's get started We'll be reviewing the thread and our own internal feedback in the coming month and will get a review out as soon as it's ready. |
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(copypasted from my pastebin. sorry if i sounded harsh. I generally enjoyed the event very much but I feel like there are some things that can be changed. love ya, cheers, salmon) |
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Pros: Cons: - 2 of the 3 CRTs in the quiet practice room did not work or was missing their remote so they were not usable. - The people that were right next to the stream 1 audience that would randomly just yell at the top of their lungs (I assume StreetBoyz). I understand people are just having fun and popping off or w/e, but sometimes it was just yelling for the sake of yelling. It got pretty annoying, especially when trying to watch or run games on stream 1. |
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My feedback is pretty much the same as last year so I won't bother repeating myself. In short, it's a very fun event and thank you for hosting it and keeping it the way it is. On stuff that was different: - I'm not a fan of having stream 1 and 2 in the same room. The audio bled over between streams a lot and stream 2 kept having to put up with bouts of applause or laughter from stream 1, disrupting their separate schedule. I'm speaking as an audience member, of course, but I'm sure it was just as noticeable for those watching at home. - very glad you went for a full-blown arcade this year instead of just having a few noisy machines in the lobby area. That said, as a big fan of Jubeat, I feel I have to take you up on your source. You had two cabinets designed for Jubeat Festo (the latest) and one for Jubeat Qubell (old). But the game data you had is for Jubeat Clan, which is prior to the latest. As far as I know Clan isn't available to consumers anymore but is easily available on private trackers, sooo... well, anyway, however you got the game data, you did a very bad job of modding it. You can patch out the tutorial and unlock all songs for guests, you know? That's what GDQ does. And they have Festo. - also on the arcade: if you were watching at all during the week, you surely noticed that the rhythm games are BY FAR the most popular attraction. Consider investing in more of them. And perhaps some better-known ones (did someone say sdvx?) - the number of PCs you have available for common use has diminished every year since I've been paying attention. Why is that? The "PC room" only had about 8 computers in it and was packed 24/7. I feel really bad for anyone who wanted to practice a PC run, let alone me and my friends just wanting to play some games. No chance. - Seriously can they PLEASE FIX THAT ONE ELEVATOR!?? |
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Echoing other peoples' points for the most part; The lack of practice PCs was a real shame. The % of PC runs on the schedule as opposed to console runs was not reflected here. The issue is large enough for me to consider bringing my own laptop next year, which personally adds a level of discomfort and worry. The Street Boyz "issue" was a necessary evil. It grew to the level of side-event, which nobody was ready for. More communication with staff/organizers is required in future. Please please please, do not stifle things like this in future because of the disturbance(s) it may have caused. The Street Boyz brought so many of us together, and was a huge source of inspiration. :esaHeart: |
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Thanks for this kind of feedback thread, exactly what I like to see The tournament room was great, and I can't thank Feasel enough for his work. He did an outstanding job and was very polite and engaged throughout the whole event. I hope he returns and I hope ESA will expand the tournament section into a bigger or better-fit room with a dedicated team around Feasel, and possibly a dedicated Discord channel/server for participants to coordinate and communicate better. It would also be great if the tournament stream was advertised more (but I understand it was a "test" this year) and possibly have some finals streamed on the first or second ESA stream. I'm sure there'd be an audience for the (grand) finals of a 40+ people Smash Bros. tournament or some quirky stuff like Quiz Bowl or something. Moving the Arcades into a separate room was a very good decision. It's sad that some of them broke and weren't able to be repaired, but I understand. Feel free to expand the Arcade even more! The Super Mario Sunhine Relay was better organized and executed than some of the previous crowd relay races/runs, and the choice of game and category was good - while I think Mario 64 draws a bigger crowd, some change of pace was surely needed and Sunshine is probably a better choice than Galaxy or Odyssey. I like that practice was a requirement this year, that should be the standard for the future. So thanks to Fuzzy, Samu and HiddenPower for setting that up and I hope there'll be another relay or something alike next year. Maybe a two or four team "Mario Party" game (so that 20 rounds equal 80 players) or so, would definitely be quite the mess - but I guess it's not a speedrun so idk. The community intermission glitch videos were a cool new format and I'd like to see them again in the future, possibly with a wider variety of topics - instead of just glitches, it could be a compilation of user-submitted highlights such as funny, sad, WTF oder clutch moments of their streams. This would give the big ESA audience a small insight into the vast variety of streams and personalities of ESA-attendees as they actually can be found and seen on their Twitch channels. A good mix wouldn't hurt, I think. My first minor complaint is that some of the hosts and/or donation readers often don't seem to be too well informed about the charity ESA supports. I might be too "harsh", but when they "advertise" the charity but stumble over their own words and can't really say anything more than "yeah, Alzheimers is bad" and don't say what the Alzheimer Foundation actually does... well, let's just say I think this could be improved. Doesn't have to be much, but a small post-it note with general info about the charity (and the disease they're fighting) might go a long way. My second minor complaint is that my hotel card somehow wasn't authorized to open the door to the stairs (on the ESA floor, at least). With one of the elevators always "out of service", waiting for an elevator for multiple minutes just to find out it's crowded and you can't even enter it... not sure if ESA can do something about that, but I figured I'd mention it. I had mixed feelings about stream 2 being in the big room. I can see the pros, but I personally felt it was nice to have a separate room simply because it had a completely different feel to it. Not really a complaint, but an opinion. The A/C in the big room was set too cold sometimes, especially when the room was mostly empty, so during night- and morning-hours. At last, I'm hoping to see more and more flat screens in the coming years. More and more people either have converters to plug old consoles into HDMI or have SuperNT, SNES Classic etc. Maybe post a poll in the ESA discord and ask attendees what options they have/prefer, so you get an idea of what ratio of CRT/LCD might be good. My biggest complaint is that ESA ended. In the future, we should probably remove this flaw and keep going forever |
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Overall positive impression, couple of things I think might be worth addressing: -Quiet Practice was kind of a mess in terms of not having PCs and then having them and then getting loud at times when it shouldn't be. I don't remember this being much of an issue last year? -Lounging area+arcade room downstairs was great, albeit probably needed some degree of more dedicated checking on since as far as I recollect stuff like Q&C and the pinball machines were supposed to get turned off at night which didn't always happen or did and someone just turned them back on again. -Mixed feelings on the double stream in the main hall, it was nice to see stream 2 getting some more space and a bigger screen compared to before though. The overlapping hype was kind of awkwardness at times, since you're not really keeping track of what's going on with the other stream and it just became distracting from the run you were trying to watch. -I can't really speak much about stuff that the other volunteers were doing but the impression I got was that some seniors really needed to get told to put their work down and go rest. -I would like to see some better way of setting up games would be thought out, at least for PC games which I got the impression from tech and runners was where a lot of little chunks of time repeatedly got lost. Only thing that immediately comes to mind is investing in more streaming rigs with space for a lot of the games people will be running and having people get their game set up more in advance. -Last but not least, no more bulky arcade machines please |
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Since I was one of the off-site mods, this will only be a review of my viewing experience, but I think that's as important as the on-site reviews. Schedule: Setup breaks: Stream 2: Overall it was once again a very enjoyable event and I'm sure things can be improved further next year! |
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So here we are, ESA was one of the greatest moment of the year once again. It was my 3rd time attending this year and it was probably my best ESA so far. ++ Every runners were really cool to hang around with, I just met some really cool people this year and it was a pleasure to catch some old friends too Once again, i had a really good time this year at ESA. Can't wait to see you all next year |
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I'll just keep this short and focus on the 2 main negatives. 1. PC room and the Quiet practice room. Having to boot people off the PC room because they unplugged a PC from a monitor to play Smash on it is something that shouldn't happen. There should be clear indications that console gaming shouldn't be done in the PC room. 2. I already wrote this in the donation reader/host thingy but I will write this here as well. |
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Pro: - As always, great location. Next to a train station so you can go explore the city. Gives you lots to do if things are just 15 minutes away. - Great event space size wise. More rooms than last year, arcade room was generously equipped and you could go in at pretty much any time and find a free machine and go game. - I didn't stay at the hotel but from the few glimpses I've seen from the rooms they actually put ESA on channel one to be easily accessible! I am not sure if this was the case last time but I remember people had to connect their laptops to watch the stream. Maybe I am completely misremembering things. - Free snacks and cold water is always great - The event bathrooms were always clean. Thanks, people. - Great security. As far as I can tell nothing got stolen or outsiders let inside. - Arcade was great! Many new games that I had fun with. Loved Groove Coaster and the good ol' Quick N Crash and I wish I played more. Con: - The PC room situation was a bit strange. Lots of tables but many of them were empty. I think at one point I counted 8 PCs. Some tables were occupied by someones personal setup and I haven't seen them use it once the whole time I was there. It's okay if you set up your personal stuff but the PC room is not a LAN center where you reserve a seat for a week. Please bring a laptop next time, I know I will look into getting a used one for the next event. - The main event hall was a big step backwards from last year. Street boys, or in general having gaming setups that close to the main stream was not a good idea. It resulted in distracting yelling and a cramped feeling for the seating area. Also there were many tables in the middle of the room that weren't used at all whenever I got a chance to glance over. Last year the space was used well with console setups a little further away, tables with PCs you could use, people could set up competitions for short games like the Pringles game or Nikita (it was planned but didn't happen). This setup also resulted in the whole room being able to watch the main stream from anywhere. You could sit in the back and practice your speed game while watching the stream on the big screen. This also made stream 1 feel more important than this year since you'd enter the room and all you see is the main stream from any angle. Was pretty great. - Put stream two back into its own space away from loud stream one cheering and clapping every couple of minutes. While watching Henys Doom run (may it rest in peace) I sometimes had trouble understanding him while sitting next to the speakers because stream one was going wild. - Streamer room was a bit big for only two stream stations. I liked the way it was last time where the booths were set up in the main room. If you stream from a big event and you can hear the big event on your own stream I think that's pretty "hype" for a lack of a better word. Maybe that room could then be used for Mafia, move the arcade in the bigger Mafia room and then move stream two into the arcade room. It already had a big screen and lots of room for chairs. - This is more for the attendees and not the organisers. Please put your ice cream or water cup into the bin when you're done with it. Don't just let it sit on the PC tables. - Maybe factor in 10 minutes of set up between each run. If you get a run in later in the event you can be almost sure that it's over 5 hours later than scheduled. I am not a runner at the event but as an outsider it felt like this was the case. I saw a lot of games get moved to the second stream in an attempt to not fall behind even further. |
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First time attending. Volunteered for Infodesk. Had a great time. Loved the runs, the Side events and the venue itself. Some issues though: - Yes, I loved Speed Boyz, and I indulged in it too, but a group of the same game (Street Boyz or not) shouldn't be allowed in the main hall. It was fine when it was moved to the break-out area. Maybe put up some Partitions in the main hall to dampen some of the noise too. I loved the idea of having an on-going speedrun challenge that anyone could get into, but keep it in the lobby area (or even the arcade? that might be too out of the way) - Infodesk was good, but the Event going over estimate by what 4? 5 hours? meant we were scrambling to get people to do extra unplanned shifts at the end. - Also on Infodesk, two of our main duties: Checking badges and Lost and Found, were kind of hampered I felt. People coming up the stairs without there badges on was common, and there were more than a few people who kept posting photos of lost items on Discord, rather than handing them in (making it more difficult to verify who owned it). |
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Positives first: + Location, as last year, was superb, same with the Hotel (though A/C was not working again, which isn't as tragic as last year but still annoying to sleep in a room where is 28°C). Sadly there was also several negative aspects: General suggestion (not really a negative point or something): Edit: Edit2: Edit3 (sorry for so many edits my brain is a mess right now): |
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First time attending from overseas and overall, it was an amazing experience! I'll probably end up repeating a lot of what was said, but I'm just grabbing this from a pros/cons list I wrote up just shortly after the event. Pros: Cons: TL;DR: Experience as an attendee was phenomenal, experience as a runner was a complete nightmare. |
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As the first ESA I attended it was a very positive impression. As I can't compare it to previous events I'll just list the standout things for me: Positives: + Location and venue was about as perfect as can be. I remember being told that the hotel is right outside the train stop, but well, I didn't expect it to be quite literally right outside the train stop. The mall being right next door too and in general just the whole area was incredibly convenient. The hotel staff were very friendly too, and the facilities and things like breakfast, the ice-cream/popcorn etc. was very nice (this is starting to sound like a sell-out for the hotel here but hey it was good!) + The arcade room was very nice. Having a large area of machines with good variety mixed alongside a cosy seating area made for a very comfy hang-out spot. Very much hoping this stays the same next event, maybe even with more machines? I noticed Jubeat was quite popular which often led to people loitering around waiting for their turn, something not as noticeable on the other machines. + The $25 Yakuza run was such a standout and it's almost a shame it didn't feature on Stream 1 where likely more people would've seen it. These kind of runs definitely have a lot of potential and can bring a lot of entertainment in ways a traditional speedrun might not. Either way, I hope these make a return! + Tournament Room. I actually only managed to catch a few but they all seemed very well organised and pulled off, and I regret not taking part in any myself. Big props to the organisers and everyone who made these run as smoothly as they did. + Intermission mini-speedruns/showcases - I thought these were a really nice feature for in-between runs, and made for some nice bite-sized material for things I might've had no idea about. Great stuff! Negatives: - The text-to-speech donation reading on stream 2 felt a little odd. Granted, it's a fair solution if volunteer count is a problem and not something that can easily be fixed otherwise. - I loved the camaraderie of the whole Street Boys thing, although I felt the noise sometimes distracted and took away from things going on in Stream 1 due to the location. Perhaps groups/gatherings of that sort can be stationed further away from what I guess you'd see as the main attraction and heavy focus of the stream. - The 2 elevators-lifestyle for most of the week was a little tedious, especially for those on the higher floors. This I suppose is more of a hotel issue and something they should look into more to prevent it from breaking down so frequently, which is definitely a problem for an event with this many people. Other Notes: ~ Me and some friends went to The Alley, an escape room facility stationed in Malmo quite close to the train station which was an absolute blast. We talked to the host and he'd mentioned he'd contacted ESA for a discount deal of some sort but didn't receive any response. This could be something to look into, as escape rooms are a great outing for groups and with this particular one so nearby (short 5~ minute train into a 2~ minute walk?) it could be a good opportunity! Overall a great event. Big thanks to everyone who helped organise and run it, and make it such a memorable 9 days. Very much looking forward to going again next year and hopefully getting involved even more. |
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Positives Arcade room was great, very popular and allowed more space in the main rooms without annoying sounds like quick and crash all the time. I agree that more focus should be put on the rhythm games if possible, as ones such as Groove Coaster were very popular. Tournaments this year were spot on, I'm glad that it was handled properly and there was a huge choice to pick from. Having a dedicated stream for it was fantastic. Street Boyz was a great amount of fun, I of course understand that it got very rowdy at times but I believe this is simply due to nobody expecting how popular it was going to be this year. The setup moved into another room when asked, and it was much better. I don't think this is anyone's fault, more just a learning process for similar things during future events. Negatives I was already sceptical to begin with regarding having both streams in the same room. I was running a short technical game during a very hype run on stream 1 and I couldn't hear myself think even with the headset on. My co-commentators couldn't hear a word I was saying for the most part and commentating & concentrating is extremely hard in these circumstances. This layout will likely work for long chill runs that don't have much in regards to technical tricks, but you cannot have short technical runs on there because it is almost impossible to play well with the noise of stream 1 so close-by. Way too many races this year, they became tiring very fast and lost the magic as others have mentioned. I agree with Becci in that the music playlist seemed very limited, so expanding that in the future would be great if that's possible. I also agree with NocFrost about the Twitter spam and spoke to Edenal about it during the event. I found it extremely annoying and it looks like others did too, even going as far as to unfollow the account. While I see that as very extreme, I definitely think that tuning it down is a good idea. This year the tweets got tiresome very quickly. Points that are not positive or negative Regarding the practice room, I had no issues with it. Yes it was packed, but there was always a PC I could use to practice even at peak times. Most of the time I had to ask someone if I could use it, but they never had an issue letting me take priority. I understand that some people are not comfortable doing this, and there is definitely a point to be made for expanding in this area. However it's pretty simple to see what someone is playing, check the schedule and if it isn't there just ask to use it for stream practice. Rubbish is always going to be a problem at these events, people don't put their rubbish in the bins. This cannot really be helped in many ways, but I would like to thank Barbie for going around the main hall and collecting rubbish. It's not a nice job and I appreciate you doing that! (This goes for anyone else who helped with the rubbish problem too.) |
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