FinlandThat's a tricky question. With the current meta where we can immediately buy all upgrades by going into the negatives so the exact amount of money is not as important anymore. Personally I would be okay if you submit a run that starts with: Race class: anywhere between 16000-17000 credits and only the Chili bought Street class: anywhere between 42000-43000 credits and only the Chili bought
That still doesn't fix the cumbersome resetting though, as you would have to play through the whole game all over again every time.
I am not telling you to do this, but I want to ask others what they think: Would it be fair in this instance, when playing on a PS2, to "pretend reset"? As in get the money back to 16k/42k, purchase the Chili and then pretend you didn't complete the races that you already did and play normally again. That would still be pretty annoying but I can't think of much else. I'm pretty open minded about this if it would only apply to PS2, I can't imagine that many runs would be played on it.
Hey, thanks for the question. Generally it's always preferred that there would be no mods. Visual mods and widescreen fixes and whatnot are allowed though. But also, we are just a "small" group of people doing this for fun. So to assume that anyone would want to cheat here isn't really a thing that I would be concerned about. No one is getting anything out of this.
Regardless, it just simplifies things for everyone if no one has mods. As Miles said, easier for mods to clarify that everyone is legit and no one starts pointing fingers. We are also far more active on Discord if you are interested in joining.
Made some quick additions to the settings. You now have to choose which handling mode you use in your run, in ILs and full-game runs. Every run defaulting to the "Normal" setting for now.
If you have a run or noticed a run that uses the Professional handling instead, notify a mod in Discord or edit it yourself if you are able to.
For now, you can only have one time show up, as in if your Normal run is better than your Professional run, only the Normal run will show up on the leaderboard. That can be changed if you people want it changed.
Secondly, Career Mode ILs. Use clips from your All Bronze Races, Any% and so on, with all the upgrading glitches and so on. They show up as a sub-category when you click on a level on the Level Leaderboard, Time Trial times showing up as the defaults.
Hello! Thanks for asking about the ILs. I'll begin work on them tomorrow :) All of the cars and maps and modes will be a mess though but I'm sure some compromise can be made.
The only thing that I care about with the videos is that people could view them here on the site. I do not know if videos uploaded to Discord would be viewable here. YouTube is obviously the most common one but there are alternatives like BitChute or Vimeo. I don't know if videos from these sites embed correctly either, have to test and see.
Hey, just made this page for the game and so far I have only added the "Challenge"-mode to the main leaderboard. If anyone has ideas for other categories, feel free to suggest anything.
Individual levels I might add, along with car selection just like in FlatOut 1.
I might make another thread or something for bugs and routing later.
Also is there an easy way to reset the game?
The level leaderboard has been added. Categories being the fastest single lap and racing through all the laps in the time trial mode. The car you use must also be specified (which just means you click on the name of the car when submitting a run)
The bonus tracks couldn't be included since those can't be played in the time trials mode.
If you have ideas or any questions, ask here or in our Discord server! Even if you don't have any ideas or questions, join anyway! https://discord.gg/r5ZzXak
The timing starting point for Derby, Race and Street class runs has been changed. The timing will now begin on the press of the 'Career' button in the main menu instead of at the beginning of the first race.
To not just disqualify the old runs, there will be a small penalty of 35 seconds max. added. If the video shows a time less than that, then that time will be added. If the video shows more than 35 seconds of menuing, then only 35 seconds will be added. If the video doesn't include menuing, 35 seconds are added.
Also the ending point for any% has been tweaked, it used to end when the cutscene with the awards started, but is now the same as all other categories. The timer stops when the last race is passed.
Hey! Can we have a 100% category in the full-game leaderboards? I don't know if anyone will ever do it, but having it there won't hurt anybody, right? 100% of course meaning you have to 1st place every single cup, stunt, derby and event. The career page says that you have completed it 100% when you have all the cups done, but that is obviously not accurate. When you are choosing your profile, it says your game progress, which means the career progress. For my profile where I have done pretty much everything, every cup and final and so on, it says 99% because I have two stunts in the street class 2nd place, so that "game progress" should be a good indicator of 100%. Of course it is pretty obvious with all the gold medals.
Also, can we have three more of 100% categories, one for each class? If the class 100% categories are possible, can the rules be set so that the class final would also have to be completed?
Okay, that is fine. But please have it so that it is needed to do all the cups in all of the three classes? I don't think it makes much sense to skip two of the cups on level three and only do the third/final cup. I'd say that it would make a lot more sense if the run ended when the clip starts (similar to the one when you complete the grand finals), indicating you have completed the derby class.
So if not the Derby Finals, just all of the derby cups? And not skipping any so that we get the 100% on the derby part? (that doesn't include any stunts/demolitions)
I guess I could use this thread too. Forgot to mention which category my Central City 1 run was. It's for the race class, not derby. I though these sort of mistakes would be taken care of by the moderators.
Derby Finals. Not Grand Finals. Just the Derby Final part that you unlock when you conquer all of the derby class cups.
No I mean it would work the same way then. any% needs the Grand Final done so if it's made so that the Derby Class needs the Derby Finals done it would basically be the any% run but only the derby part.
As the any% requires you to do the Grand Final, shouldn't the Derby, Race and Street classes require you to do the finals for them as well? If we just have to get to the Special Forest Derby Cup, it would mean that we skipped two whole cups and the Derby Class is not counted as being complete by the game. Or maybe not the finals but just so that we unlocked the finals etc. Would make the category a lot clearer, or that's what I think. Just have the rules for all of the classes as "The run starts as you start the first race and ends after the last race of the corresponding final ends." Also I thought a way of setting rules for doing the race and street classes. Just have them the same way but you have to gather enough money on a fresh character until you can buy a car for the right class. Having it any other way would make it unfair. Someone could just gather all the money possible (or do the cheat code) and buy all upgrades and so on. It will make the race and street cups really grindy but... Can't really do anything else, or I can't think of anything else.
You using the classic or the studio one? I couldn't get FO2 working with the classic... But then I did the same with the studio version and it did fine.
Also I've got an issue with the timers. I have them all worked out but when I go into the game, no matter if the game is closed and then I open the timer or the other way around. It just wont show up. I've tried LiveSplits and WSplit. Neither work when I open the game.
Got another question about completing the Derby Class. You said earlier that you need to complete the last derby cup, so is it allowed to just skip the other three cups, or do we need to complete them all so that we unlock the Venom/Derby Finals/complete the level? Sorry this might be a dumb question.
On the Full-game Leaderboard, Derby Class can be easily done with just a fresh profile/character. How are the Race Class and Street Class runs completed?
Thank you! I will be soon back with many runs. (Or races?)
I will most possibly start making FlatOut2 speedruns. I just have a few questions.
"The run starts as you start the first race and ends after the last race ends. You must race through all the Derby Class cups."
What exactly does this mean? I know this has also been asked in a previous thread, but I thought I should make a new thread because I got other questions as well. Do we also do the stunts? Do we only have to get the bare minimum to get to the Derby Finals? Or do we do the finals? (as in the four final races, do we do the derby one?)
On the Demolition Derby, do we need to get the derby over as fast as possible, all dead? Do we need to get to the first spot?
Doing the fastest lap, is it allowed to setup the map for doing one fast lap? As like destroying everybody else or moving junk around to make it easier to get just one fast lap?
On Level Leaderboard, do we need to do the 4 lap race or can we get one from the career that has less laps? As for example El_Nacho has a run on Water Canal 1 with 3 laps. http://www.speedrun.com/run/oy2ev95y Or do 4 lap races but use modified cars from the career?
Sorry for so many questions, but I feel like the rules explained are too vague. I'd gladly help with anything!
