There is no submission in the submission queue.

Before even watching the video, surprise surprise another private video that's not public.

I think it’s very well needed to be said that I have re watched the video and I have a correction I need to make. He actually says ''There were solely 2 videos, those 2 containing 2 individual runs each “ . It was a confusing way to word it and that is my mistake. (I wasn’t the only one who got this confused, earlier the people defending him also kept mentioning it was only 2 runs)

That doesn’t excuse him for lying about the dates the stolen runs were submitted to src and the way he has made the video private yet claiming he wants the video shared to everyone. And he blamed other mods for basically not covering it up and talking to him first before the ban, and playing victim and making excuses etc. Saying they backstabbed him.

So yeah he mentions its 4 runs in the video, he just never says the word 4 for some reason.

The point would almost make sense but I’m pretty sure in the apology video he might have mentioned he’s thought about the day he stole the runs ever since 2015. Or something along those lines. I could be mis remembering what he said though. (It is a 30 minute video)

Edit: He apparently said he’s thought about it every day since the ban*

Also I personally think he knows what he was doing when he submitted them.

TDLR, jaypin88 cheats and steals 4 world record runs 4 times. Gets permanent ban. Src unbans randomly out of no where and has said no reason why. Jaypin88 makes apology video and doesn’t apologize but he lies in the video and talks shit about users and plays the victim card.

And right now you have 2 sides. People that don’t like cheaters and want them perm banned and people that want cheaters to have multiple chances every time they cheat/lie about cheating. Etc

Yea you’re right @Viper but I’d rather take toxic people that speedrun legit then nice lying speedrunners that cheat. Also I do agree with you that it’s pretty toxic to defend people that cheat and are given 5+chances and still don’t change. Actually to think of it. Defending cheating seems like the most toxic thing someone can do lol. This is why you haven’t responded to anything at all viper? You’re just too wrapped around defending cheaters no matter how many times they cheat. Jaypin deserves 8 chances right? Yea… totally. These defending cheaters people crack me up lol.

Again, nothings stopping everyone from cheating 50 runs and just be given a second chance. Based on srcs logic. Everyone’s allowed to cheat. You just get a free pass when you get caught. So if you wanna cheat 9 times and steal 9 WR runs. As long as you only get caught once it only counts as your “first chance” this logic is backwards viper lmao. Great logic bro.

Also, about saying the “mentality” of perm banning cheaters. I’d rather be safe then sorry. And I’d rather perm ban cheaters then defend them in any way. And I’d rather have harsh punishments rather then. “Oh wow you cheated!! But it’s ok because you changed right? Ok come back :)” It gives off the impression that cheating is perfectly fine as long as “you change”

I’m not saying people can’t change. Obviously they can. But trying to cover it up and lie about things? Where has he earned his way to be unbanned from anywhere at all?

At the end of the day, perm banning cheaters shows a precedent that we take this hobby seriously, and if anybody dare ever break this rule. They won’t get any other chances. This is a good way to keep cheaters out of the hobby. They will second guess before they act.

If you’re mentality is just letting cheaters come back all Willy nilly, there is no incentive not to cheat. People will know they will keep getting more chances so why even play legit? If anything they are gonna find smarter ways to cheat so they don’t get detected again.

I’d rather protect the community’s integrity. We can’t just let cheaters know it’s ok to cheat and they will get a slap on the wrist.

As for jaypins case. He has lied and has said things about people that are not true. He tried to cover up his cheating. He had years to delete his video. This guy has not changed. AT ALL.

It seems to me like you guys wanna defend cheaters just to defend cheaters. Or maybe you guys are friends with him? I don’t know. I’d never defend a cheater even if they were my friend. I’d drop that friendship real quick lol.

It wasn’t 5 years ago. It was in 2019 when he uploaded them to speedrun.com. It wasn’t 2 runs he cheated in, It was 4. His apology video was full of lies and manipulation and immaturity about calling out moderators that didn’t keep his cheating a secret, just so you know the actual facts Kkntucara. This isn’t him maturing at all.

Aslan, he hasn’t matured. If you watched the apology video, he lied multiple times during it. It was 4 runs he cheated in, not 2. Then he claims people are out to get him. He’s hiding his video under unlisted. If he was truly sorry about cheating he would make a public video. Actually the entire apology video is a joke of an apology tbh. Also he kept saying “6 years ago” nahhh. It was 2 years ago when he submitted them to speedrun.com

This dude had 6 years to delete his cheated runs. Or even better yet. He uploaded the cheated runs to speedrun.com in 2019. All he had to do is take them down at literally anytime. But he kept them up there until he got caught.

He has not matured at all.

I’m willing to give literally all people second and third and fourth chances when it comes to most things. Cheating is not one of them.

So it's ok to cheat by stealing other peoples run and submitting them as your own? Okay, I guess there's no consequences for stealing/cheating anymore? This unban is ridiculous.

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