Fyn, DenmarkHave you done anything special within the game or did this happen the first time as well? Try reaching out in the Discord (there's a channel for this game), people might be able to help there as well :) Invite: https://discord.gg/ktPH2sB
We have in the Skipper and Skeeto community for some time had some discussions about what's allowed when speedrunning one of the games.
The thing is that it's possible to skip some of the dialogs (and thus save a lot of time) in the game if you run it in two windows (simply by opening the game twice), start the game in one of the windows, save it and then continue in the other window by loading the game. It's maybe a bit simplified, but the main point is that you need two windows of the game in order to do this.
Now to my question: Do any of you know any other games that have had similar cases? It would be nice to be able to get inspired by rules (and maybe category names) of other games that has experienced something similar.
In the end only the 3rd game didn't follow the "skipperX" patter so I just altered that one. I also like that pattern since it's easy to remember and at least in the danish games that's actually what the game-folder is called (at least for the old games) - e.g. "magnus1".
I tried finding all pages referencing the longer URL (by Googling it) and I think there won't be issues about changing it. It however also seems like the old URL is still works, but don't know if that will be permanent?
So now the 3rd game has this URL: https://speedrun.com/skipper3
For the record, the URL is now updated to align it with the other games - it is now https://www.speedrun.com/skipper3 (even though at the time of writing this, it seems like the old URL still works) :)
During a stream of the game we got to speak about when the timing is supposed to stop. Currently the rules state "... as soon as you click on the escape pod (last action in the game)", but both the 2nd and 3rd best (non-obsolete) run (by webfischi and JulianRikku) don't finish it until they enter the escape pod.
Personally I think it makes most sense to finish the timing when they enter the escape pod as we might in the future find a way to get to it quicker - and thus the animation between clicking and entering might make a difference. Furthermore it can be hard to tell when the speedrunner clicked the capsule (even though it's quite clear in most cases).
In that case the rules should just be changed to "... as soon as they enter the escape pod".
It's a minor thing, but would be nice to figure it out so the timings can be streamlined :)
Anigif
That's true :P skask is possible to pronounce - but it's probably a bit confusing what the 'a' is? (However not more confusing that for instance ssmm :P)
Would "skipperskeetoX" be too long?
Exactly - and that isn't that pretty either, then it could just as well be %20.
Another random thought, could also be "skskX"? I think that could work :)
Yup. And a good point that it is called something different. Regarding that (a bit offtopic), I also requested that it was possible to list alternative names: https://www.speedrun.com/the_site/thread/411to
Agree with the S&S, thought about it too. But at least if I go to https://www.speedrun.com/s&s it ignores "&s" (probably because of standard URL rules) and you see the page for the user "s". So I'm not sure it would be possible?
But the multi-language also got me thinking, maybe use "ss" from some of the titles and "mm" from most others. According to Wikipedia the only exception would be Spanish "tt". But considering the other too, it could be "ssmmX". But maybe that's a bit "random" too since it's a weird mixup?
Just as an information I've made a thread in the series page about if we should align the URLs a bit: https://www.speedrun.com/skipper_and_skeeto/thread/f8b03
Just as an information I've made a thread in the series page about if we should align the URLs a bit: https://www.speedrun.com/skipper_and_skeeto/thread/f8b03
Hi everyone.
We now have a page for the four first games and a series page - that's awesome!
But I was thinking that it maybe made sense to align the URLs of the games and the series page. Right now we have these five URLs: https://speedrun.com/skipper_and_skeeto https://speedrun.com/skipper1 https://speedrun.com/skipper2 https://speedrun.com/skipper_and_skeeto_3_the_revenge_of_mr._shade https://speedrun.com/skipper4
Usually I think it's recommended to have longer (describing) urls if seard engines should understand them better. But I think that the norm for speedrun.com is that they are as short as possible (check out the top-games: https://www.speedrun.com/games).
Considering that, "skipperX" would be an okay solution. Only issue would probably be for the series page ("skipper") since there's a user by that name. The user has however no runs/posts and it's a year since last login - so maybe we could request that url. I personally think it's a shame that "skeeto" isn't a part of the name.
The shortest by far would be "ssX". But that unfortunately wouldn't work for "ss" and "ss2" since it's taken up by other games. Same applies for "sas", "sas3" and "sas4".
Then there's for instance "sandsX". But that also sounds a bit wierd?
"s_sX" or "s-sX" could also be an option, as long as it's not confused with "ss".
In the end "skipper_and_skeetoX" is a bit long, but at least it tells what game it's about?
And just as a final thought, only issue about changing urls would be everyone refering to the old URLs. But I think that's a risk we should take, if we agree on something it hopefully aren't changed again.
Let me know what you think. If we agree on something I hope Tiltustratel and JulianRikku will change #2 and #3.
Thanks in advance :) Anders
Hi :)
I think the release year of this game is 1998. I know Wikipedia states that it's 2000, but bibliotek.dk (that is the official page for all Danish libraries) states that there was a release i 1998. See here: https://bibliotek.dk/linkme.php?rec.id=870970-basis%3A22296213
Currenly I've set S&S4 to have been released in 2000, but that has to be changed to 1999 - I just did it like this now since there otherwise was a wrong sorting the series page.
Thanks in advance.
Anders
Awesome! :D
It's a really nice game that I played during my childhood :) And this is just #1 in the series. #2 and #3 are also here, hope the remaining will be added later on :) 2: https://speedrun.com/skipper2 3: https://speedrun.com/skipper3
Hi :)
It would be nice if it was possible to enter alternative game titles in the games page or add them somewhere else (like in a description).
The reason for this request is a game (series) here on the site that currently have the English title, but titles in other languages doesn't look like it at all. And in my case I had never heard the English title before I randomly found it via another site. The games are orignally Danish, so I think most people know the Danish title - but it makes more sense to have it in English as a common ground.
I've now added a new game to the series, but it doesn't look like it's possible to add the localized title in any way. I think that would be a great addition so everyone can find the games they are searching for.
Furthermore the game-covers also vary, so would be neat to be able to upload some more (like it seems like it's possible for Japanese). That's however a minor thing, the other I would prefer a lot more.
To underline what I mean by the various localizations/translations: English, Czech, Dutch: Skipper and Skeeto Danishn, Norwegian: Magnus og Myggen Swedish: Magnus och Myggan French: Max & Moustique Spanish:Topi y Teo German: Max und Mario (or Skipper & Skito)
I know for sure the English and Scandinavian names, the rest I've found via Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skipper_%26_Skeeto
Best regards Anders
Wow, thanks for the thorough investigation! You're totally right, the same happened for me when when I set up the filter. I assumed the "default" part was only relevant when submitting new runs but I can see what you mean about the tooltip.
I unchecked English as default and it works now - thanks a lot!
I'll guess this solves my issue, but some site admin should still have a look at the visual bug.
Hi.
I just got a new game approved and added my own run, but in the category it still states "There are no runs.". I can find the run in various places, e.g. in the stats-page (by clicking on "Most recent run"), but it's no where to be found in the main-page of the game. Have I set up anything wrong?
Game: https://www.speedrun.com/skipper1 Run: https://www.speedrun.com/skipper1/run/yd5576vm
Best regards Anders
I finally got a version of (what I believe is) the first Danish version of the game. The funny thing is that the exe-file doesn't have a version-number. And for all installed variations of the game (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and Finnish) the mm2run.exe-file is created 01-09-1997 13:10 and all other files (exe and data-files) are created 01-09-1997 03:00. So this version seems to be some months older than the English version. But it's a shame that it's not possible to figure out the version number of it (at least not via the standard Properties-window).
Sounds like a good start, yeah! Let me know if you need any help.
Might be, it's hard to know - but still, for a Danish company it is more widely spread than I would have imagined. And despite it being a bit frustrating, it's also some of the fun, to try and figure out all the hidden features and alike.
That would be awesome! I think the editors in here are a bit too simple.
Ahh, like that - I guess they then updated that functionality for the 1.2 version. And that's a handy site too, didn't know about that - it has a nice overview and a few more details about the game.
True, but it would still be nice to get a picture/description of the various cases so it's easy to figure out which are 1.1 and 1.2 - even though it's better to have a smaller guide now than none at all.
Exactly. I'll also keep an eye out for them, I could always re-sell them for the same price if anyone would be interested. It's a shame it was only sold in Europe though!
That makes sense. I think it would be nice to have the finalized info somewhere on this site so you won't have to look through a lot of chat and forum messages before finding what you search for.
Okay, never heard about that.. Sounds strang, but it's awesome you found it! But what subfolder(s) was then in the Skipper2 folder?
