你还不如让中国人当东道主。

他们就像19世纪美国南方的种族主义者！

是的，他们是邪恶的。

He seems to have gone completely crazy now - he's even deleting compliant records, and this video hasn't even been deleted.

it's a fucking mobile game man, chill out

Dude has no idea what Chinese people are going through.

你甚至没玩过这款游戏。

兄弟中国人都被主持人欺负了。

Chinese people just want to protect their legitimate rights and interests.

What does that mean?

ok searched the users being mentioned anyways

I would say it's over the top to call discrimination on moderators not catching a run in TOP 1865 which is the case of hgznx seems like, and some of tavv's obsolete runs have video missing too but his current PB is still up and running.

Moderators are not controlling every single run in the leaderboard to delete them if there is no video even if they would delete them, cause that would be way too much work; they probably just deleted the active records in the top of the ledaerboard that they just so happened to see missing. Current top 25 all have working videos.

That being said: @moderators this specific speedrun has video missing and theoricaly should be deleted under ongoing fair rule -> https://www.speedrun.com/subsurf/runs/m3w4p5gy

Nothing more to add, im not gonna devil-advocate if that rule is fair or not and I still got no idea what mental gymnastics around game versions is going on here xd

We’re all just here to play games—I don’t want racism or politics involved. Chinese people shouldn’t be discriminated against in this regard, and we’ll never give up defending our dignity easily. Equality is upheld by most countries, and all ethnic groups are one family.

I can show you how many people in China have achieved a time of 1 hour

Come on! You keep saying "We wouldn't do that," but you haven't actually addressed the issue head-on at all

Oh I'm not part of the current moderation team to say "we wouldnt" lol i was just trying to grasp whats going on.

no mod making the slightest mention on this matter, even though some DID answer me but not yall, is kinda odd from them for sure.

halo？我还是直接用中文吧，我来说说为什么ksjs和yunying_MH会这么生气，

第一件事是在2024的3月20日左右，tavvkkj上传了一份38:55的纪录，他使用了我们给他的火山（人名）修改的拉斯维加斯版本（类似于自定义纹理）如果按照规则来说的话，这份记录最后的结果应该是不通过，因为它并不是sbyo官方或者代理公司发布的版本，而是以1.109.0的新加坡版本为底层构架，将拉斯维加斯（我忘记版本号了）的火车模型，背景模型和场景模型更换到了1.109.0的版本里，虽然玩起来还是适合无金币挑战的版本，但是背景被改成了拉斯维加斯，更有观赏性吧

tavvkkj的38min55s游戏过程被认可了，被验证通过了，但同时也有一些中国人拿着同样的版本去递交纪录，却几乎全都被拒绝了，如果真的是对于前25名的玩家有更高标准，为什么会反而更严苛的对待普遍只能打出15-20min的大部分chn玩家呢？

这件事最重要的还有kongfen，我不知道大家是否忘记了以前2024年1月30日的那天，kongfen用别的莫斯科改版（就像我上面说的那样，只不过用了很早之前莫斯科版本的建模）这个版本是oldsix（也是人名）修改的，建模的渲染没有火山（人名）那么好，所以他的37min记录在tavvkkj的38min55s被验证后的几天就被下架了理由就是：使用了改版。所以这件事一开始就引发我们不满，我们也进行了辩论，但是最后版主们好像没有理解我们说的改版是什么。？

这件事之后就有中国人猜测会不会是“会不会是因为国外的版主因为某些媒体有了歧视中国人的想法”但是这只是一种猜测，我宁愿相信不是

第二，就是前面ksjs在宣泄不满的事了，在xn_chm给我的截图里我发现gamingguy63的观点主要是纪录就是供人观赏的，不应该被私密或删除，不然就应该被质疑为：作弊心虚不想让版主重复审查（有点太刻意了吧。？）一些中国人认为纪录这种事是不值得严肃的，所以他们在打出的成绩被认可后有的私密了速通视频（其实还好），有些把视频删除了的行为也绝对不是因为作弊心虚，只是他们忘记了可以私密。很多中国玩家并不是一直不变的玩subwaysurf，有些人在打出成绩后就去体验别的游戏例如pubgM之类的，在一个全是pubgM作品的主页放上一个subwaysurf的长视频实际上很突兀。

包括我的观点就是，既然一份记录挂在leaderboard好几个月了，被版主验证过，也被中国的或外国的观众看过，就不应该是以“视频被私密了，所以我怀疑你心虚作弊了”被理由下架，因为它实际上已经被很多人验证过了，一份伟大的作品要被多少遍验证？我有个建议，那不如让一份个人纪录被所有版主都一起验证一遍，这样就可以保证纪录的绝对真实了吧，但实际上这不可能，效率太低了

第一件事我们只是有些许的怨言，但我们还是希望可以平等的交流沟通，第二件事也就是现在谈论的，真的让人忍耐不了

最后就是baoshiwudi以前应该在私信对AntblueR有过辱骂行为，AntblueR是我所尊敬的一位版主，所以在这里也向被伤害的AntblueR道歉

希望你们的谷歌翻译不要出太多错误

I'm just saying what I know: some Chinese think it's because the moderators don't want Chinese to have too many places on the leaderboard, which I don't think makes sense, after all, there are only two Brazilians among the moderators (maybe yes？）

Thanks for actualy putting the context on the matter more clear. Has the versions matter been a big thing lately with more recent runs? It sounds like maybe that one specific Las Vegas run might have been overlooked, but the mod should probably adress that better. Actualy sharing and linking the runs that are currently on board that are not valid would make sense if one's gonna complain about it in the believe that there could be something fishy in this system which is a posibility.

For the videos matter, "not worth being taken seriously"? What's the matter with having a subway surfer speedrun up in some bilibili account instead of just not having them, specialy if people care this much about their runs and leaderboard positions as they seem to do here. Is it not possible to just have another account to have that speedrun up if you wanna keep the previous account of something else? Is there no other video site/storage that chinese people can use? In youtube you can set your videos in "hidden" to be accessible but not directly visible, is that not an option in bilibili or any other site?