I would like to get into speed running this amazing game, however the patch levels are confusing.

There have been several patches:

• The Great Lighthouse

• Fish and Ships

• Endless Runs

• Alphy’s Project

I suppose that DLC Patch 1 might be Fish and Ships (1.2.x), and DLC Patch 2 might be Alphy‘s Project (1.5.x)

This would mean the first is possible on consoles until Team 17 approves and Fika brings the patches to consoles. And the latter would be possible on the Steam version at the moment.

Can we get information on this before we get into speed running?

Also to Run on Xbox, can we just stream with the native functionality to Twitch? Or do we need a capture card and overlays to have splits and exact timing? Any help or link to guides would be appreciated.

I just read the category rules again and 2nd DLC patch mentions Otto which would be Fish and Ships update, so 1.2.x

I think then we need more patch levels to select, as the other updates for Steam up to 1.5.x brought two more character packs and trinkets (so far not available on consoles).

This raises more questions. Does NG+ refer to Endless Mode (which came after 1.2.x and is unavailable to consoles?) If it does, then Any% would be any run that starts without endless mode.

If NG+ is any game that starts without endless unlocks, then we need a new selection for Endless mode runs, and Any% would in this case be a fresh save without unlocks and thus include the Tutorial.

Also full light level means one run with Light Level 15, but it should exclude buffs from Endless Runs, right?

Please verify these questions, I‘d like to get into speed running this game. I can also help with more clarifications to set this up correctly according to the current possibilities in the game.

Many of the suggested changes have been added except for an endless mode run for which I have not settled on rules that seem good to me.

Amazing work, thank you for the patch levels. Now it‘s time to get a capture card, and practice with my kids to get some runs in before the patch hits consoles 🥳

I would propose Endless to be like NG+ or Any% to be a whole run from leaving the island until beating the final boss.

The timer rules are the same.

The only addition is that endless mode needs to be active, so it could be the second or fifth run on the loadout, just not the first (which would make it an NG+ run)

Reasoning would be that you could improve your loadout to improve times, but still the times would be somewhat comparable without adding an arbitrary goal.

The only thing that should then be added to the rules is that all the starting loadout should be shown before the run starts via inventory screens of (both) Fools.

What do you think?