Timing Details
2 years ago
Romania

Full Game Runs:

Main story: Time starts at first movement in Chapter 1 (dialog doesn't matter because you can move in it) and ends when the Credits Image while Teleporting appears

100%: Time starts at first movement in Chapter 1 (dialog doesn't matter because you can move in it) and ends when you got last badge (or did interaction for last badge, if you already have it)

Individual Level Runs:

Chapter 1: Time starts at first movement and ends when the transition trigger is met

Chapter 2: Time starts after the first textbox is read (skipped) and ends when the transition trigger is met

Trial 1: Time starts after the first textbox is read (skipped) and ends when the transition trigger is met after you collect crown

Chapter 3: Time starts at first movement and ends when the transition trigger is met

Trial 2: Time starts at first movement and ends when the transition trigger is met after you collect the gear

Chapter 4: Time starts at first movement and ends when the transition trigger is met

Trial 3: Time starts after the first textbox is read (skipped) and ends when the transition trigger is met after interaction with the elevator

Chapter 5: Time starts after the first textbox is read (skipped) and ends when the transition trigger is met

Chapter 6: Time starts after the first textbox is read (skipped) and ends when the transition trigger is met

Finale: Time starts after the first textbox is read (skipped) and ends when Nebulous Noob's health bar disappears

Conclusion: Time starts after the first textbox is read (skipped) and ends when the transition trigger is met

Additional Rules:

-For individual level runs you are not allowed to move while the first cutscene happens or while you are teleporting, it must be seen you starting at the first checkpoint

-For full game runs you are allowed to move while teleporting for the exception of the beginning of Chapter 1

-For individual level runs you are allowed to only use the wings ability at the start of the run without the time starting, all other abilities when used at start will automatically start the timer

-By first textbox I don't mean the whole dialog just the first line, timing would start when the dialog disappears or the next textbox appears

-Ask any questions in the comments and I'll probably respond to them when I got time about this, I think this is pretty fair timing and should be incorporated in the moderation

-The super moderator should put a comment if this is gonna be official or not just an idea by me right now for fair timing

Bearbeitet von der Autor 2 years ago
Antarctica

Dialogue matters

Romania

also shouldn't chapter 5 be NG and not NG+ cuz you unlock the last ability at the very beginning

Antarctica

Either one works.

Antarctica

Rules are simple, Fastest time to beat the chapter is the fastest time, Unless there are glitches, That are the rules.

United States

I have to object here.

For most Individual Level runs, timing "ends when you freeze at the end", or in other words, "By freezing I mean when you can't move anymore". I presume you mean the part where your character cannot move anymore because they've hit an invisible wall. I thought this was the trigger too! But I got word from a moderator (SteveGaming6833) that the timing actually when you hit the "storyline trigger" (the Game Rules themselves confirm this!), which is a floor (at least for Chapter 1). For retiming my run (for reasons I'll talk about later), I actually went into the level and due to Roblox physics, was able to pinpoint the EXACT point where the storyline trigger was, thus causing both my run and bozai526's runs to be retimed.

Quick timeline before we continue! I got what seemed to be a 35.94, and it was damn near perfect for the time. (The better NG+ skip hadn't been discovered yet.) And yet, bozai526's run was a 33 FLAT! How could that be? So I put the video into vegas and timed it myself. It was a 36.33 instead! How could CharlesLXV (the original verifier) either let this slip past or retime so egregiously bad? So, I talked to SteveGaming6833 about this, and together with his clarifications and my work, we were able to retime the runs to what you see now: bozai526's 35.333 and my 35.201, giving me the WR (for one day..!), which I felt was well deserved. But the fact of the matter is: CharlesLXV reviewed the speedrun as is required by his job as Super Moderator, and whoever (bozai526 or CharlesLXV) made the claim of 33 flat, CharlesLXV accepted it without request, even though a more competent retime (even though YouTube's duration bar!) would reveal the flaw.

SteveGaming6833 and I already did the work to determine what counts as the end, and now some random person wants to go ahead and change it. I wouldn't be replying here if the same moderator who did a bad job with the retiming was now treating this wall by a random user as gospel, already posting it to the speedrun news with no edits. Now, if Charles65 (LXV=65) ALSO bothered to modify the Game Rules while he was at it, then I also probably wouldn't be making this. But, if you go to the Game Rules today, you will see: "Timing starts on first movement and stops when the chapter transition trigger is met." The chapter transition trigger which me and SteveGaming6833 have found and retimed for two runs in Chapter 1 RG+%. Charles65 does indeed have more powers than SteveGaming6833, and would be in the right to change this (despite how egregious that would be, I mean, bozai526's run has already been timed 3 times, let's not add onto that tally..), but he hasn't. Why is this? I'm not sure.

I point all this out because I really do care about this game and its speedrunning community. I invite all involved to come to a settlement that makes all parties happy.

Romania

Thanks for the reply, and I'm sorry that I've made the mistake, yes timing should end when the transition trigger is met. I also care about this game a lot. :)

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LunaSpeed
She/Her, It/Its
2 years ago

i believe freezing at the end is ping reliant though

also, we REALLY need to get loads out of the equation in full-game runs :\

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Romania

I've edited the original post please tell me if I should change anything else.

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