speedrun.com speedrun.com speedrun.com
  • Games
  • Streams
  • Forums
  • More...
    Home Games Streams Forums
    News Knowledge Base About Support Hub SRC Supporter
    Night Mode
    Social
    Twitter Discord
  • Log in
  • Sign up
Language (Beta)

български

Català

Čeština

Dansk

Deutsch

ελληνικά

English

Español

Français

Gaeilge

Gàidhlig

Bahasa Indonesia

Italiano

עברית‎

Latviešu valoda

Lietuvių kalba

Nederlands

日本語

Norsk

Polski

Português

Русский

Suomi

Svenska

Türkçe

中文 (简体)

中文 (繁體)

български

Català

Čeština

Dansk

Deutsch

ελληνικά

English

Español

Français

Gaeilge

Gàidhlig

Bahasa Indonesia

Italiano

עברית‎

Latviešu valoda

Lietuvių kalba

Nederlands

日本語

Norsk

Polski

Português

Русский

Suomi

Svenska

Türkçe

中文 (简体)

中文 (繁體)

Cancel
Black Mesa
Black Mesa (2012)
Half-Life series
PC
Leaderboards
    Full Game Leaderboard Category Extensions Level Leaderboard     All     Anomalous Materials     Unforeseen Consequences     Office Complex     We've Got Hostiles!     Blast Pit     Power Up     On A Rail     Apprehension     Residue Processing     Questionable Ethics     Surface Tension     Forget about Freeman!     Lambda Core     Xen     Gonarch's Lair     Interloper     Nihilanth
News Guides Resources Streams Forum Statistics Boosters
Black Mesa Forum  /  Individual Levels Ruling poll

PackSciencesPackSciences

French Southern Territories

  PackSciencesPackSciences
28 Aug 2018, 20:35

Hello,
It seems many people don't agree on the ruling for Individual Levels, and I keep receiving tons of DMs, and since a result hasn't been reached, I decided to make a poll.
Two choices are being polled for IL ruling:
- Single-segment: Runs must be done without dying, saving or loading
- Real Time Attack: Runs must be done in one sitting, timed from the start to the completion of the level, with saves, loads and deaths allowed

Just as a quick reminder, ILs are SS for FPS speedruns in general, for Half-Life 1 and 2.
The poll will be set up as the following:
- People will vote in the comments (non-secret poll).
- People can argue about the rulings on this thread
- Voters MUST have one run in the leaderboard, either as IL or as Full-Game. "I am going to run the game if the ruling is applied" is not a valid reason (see Portal 1 vault save vote).
- Poll will start now, your vote must be readable and will end the 7th September 2018 at 20h GMT+1.

 

CianezCianez

(He/Him)

Veneto, Italy

  CianezCianez
28 Aug 2018, 20:49

Real Time Attack.

To give a bit more flexibility and room for improvement.

 

xCapexCape

Estonia

  xCapexCape
28 Aug 2018, 20:55

RTA as stated above

CianezCianez likes this. 

the_kovicthe_kovic

Czech Republic

  the_kovicthe_kovic
28 Aug 2018, 20:56

Real Time Attack.

It's the method a lot of games use (I can't say it's the majority of ALL games, but definitely the majority of games I follow). It is vital for some skips in full-game runs so having it for individual levels would give consistency. It's also good quality of life.

 

StahlStahl

North Carolina, USA

  StahlStahl
28 Aug 2018, 21:10

RTA.
It makes little sense to have it use a completely different rule set compared to full-game.

CianezCianez likes this. 

ET_wont_phone_homeET_wont_phone_home

Québec

  ET_wont_phone_homeET_wont_phone_home
28 Aug 2018, 22:06

I vote for RTA

My main reason is it would limit tricks we currently use in full runs for no reasons. Making IL runs deathless and forbidding loading is an artefact from the past. Also note games used to be ran at highest difficulty only, which is something almost no game does anymore. The only reason people did that was to artificially increase the challenge and entertainment value when speedrunning was freshly born and searching its identity and trying to gain legitimacy in the eSport world.

We would not be the first to walk away from the old way of speedrunning. I will give the Doom series as an example.

This is a copy paste from the rules of the original Doom:
''Beat map on Ultra-Violence. No cheating, no saving, no loading.''
(Ultra-Violence is the hardest difficulty level)

This is a copy paste from Doom 2016, the latest in the series:
''Use any means to complete the level from start to finish''

A perfect example in my mind of the old mentality and the new one. So, since we're voting on it, im voting for the newer one.

 

UakieUakie

Florida, USA

  UakieUakie
28 Aug 2018, 22:14

prop clipping is cheating lol

 

UakieUakie

Florida, USA

  UakieUakie
28 Aug 2018, 22:15

nah jk
RTA is better now that i really think about
I vote RTA

 

NawiedzaczNawiedzacz

Poland

  NawiedzaczNawiedzacz
29 Aug 2018, 11:05

RTA
because its faster

 
Latest News
View all
No news
Recent Threads
View all
Thread Author
I want to give this a go but can't bunny hop
Last post 13 Feb 2022
LordApricotLordApricot
2 replies
Glitchless?
Last post 9 Jan 2022
RubiiRubii
7 replies
Double Unpause Grenade -Help
Last post 25 Apr 2021
Phantom_DragonPhantom_Dragon
2 replies
Another "How to..." questions =)
Last post 30 Jan 2021
bokmakobokmako
1 replies
How to...
Last post 29 Jan 2021
bokmakobokmako
2 replies
Moderators
MaxxussMaxxuss  28382838  the_kovicthe_kovic  TableTable  JohannVonVorstJohannVonVorst 
speedrun.com speedrun.com
Overview
Games Forums Streams News
Support
Knowledge Base About Support Hub Partnerships
More
Become a Supporter Privacy Policy Terms of Use
Socials
Twitter Discord
Copyright 2022
Elo Entertainment Inc.