You told me why I got 1:23:29 because I literally give you the answer. I want to have YOUR answers to the other questions you ignored before doing anything with your run. Like why is there zero load time between your cups, or why do we have more than 1:23:33 when adding Nitro and Retro, that kind of stuff. Not the "oh yeah the 4 second difference is because I didn't give the milliseconds" that I had already figured out.

(And I also want you to know that "I gtg" is completely unnecessary in a forum)

Playtime isn't an accurate way to rate skill, you can have spent thousands of hours playing a game and still suck at it. And it also isn't an argument you can use to justify telling someone to stfu.

TicTacBean, your first post was a great meme, but you could've stopped there tbh, there was no need to keep going. Now I wish I could delete other users' posts... -_-

Edit : and now there are 3 new messages that popped up before I finished writing that. Please stop that now

If you want to be a mod just to have your runs verified immediately, that's not necessary, I do that fairly quickly since I come here pretty often (I have to watch the video if there's one, though, but that won't take a year).

You should also take into account that Lafungo added a new mod only a few days ago (yes, it's me, but that's not my point), and a LOT of people asked for mod on this forum in the past but none of them actually became mods. Also, even if you have a lot of experience in this game, you're relatively new to the community (your first run is less than 4 months old while other people have been around for years), which doesn't help when you're applying for mod (and that'd also be true in every other game).

Anyway, I can't add or remove mods myself, so Lafugo is the only one who can decide, but I can definitely tell that if you really want to become a mod, you're doing it wrong. And asking again in the description of one of your runs probably isn't going to help. Don't forget rule #1 : "If you wanna be mod, don't ask for mod."

PS : I've seen your All Cups submission ; you know that an All Cups run is made of 8 cups played consecutively without pausing the timer, and isn't just the sum of 8 individual cup times, right ? Since that's what I think you did reading the description of your 1:23:33, and from the Nitro and Retro times you submitted as being part of that "run". The times you gave don't even match : 1:23:41 if you add your Nitro and Retro segments (while you should end up within a second of your All Cups time when adding Nitro, Retro and credits/reset after Special Cup), 1:23:33 from the submission, and 1:23:29 if you add the Cup times you give in the description (although that one is understandable since it may come from you rounding the cup times down to the second). I hope you understand that I'll wait for your answer before validating those 3 runs, and your other Retro and Nitro times. And to answer the question in the description of your Leaf Cup run : no, you can't do that, you have to beat the whole cup at once. Also, as I said in the description of whatever was the first one of your runs that I verified earlier, no need to fill the "video link" thing if you don't have a video ;) I fixed that, too.

I know that, I talked to Lafungo about that, and that's under "investigation" with 2 other times (1 for Star and 1 for Shell, and 2 other runs have already been removed from the Shell Cup leaderboards for the same reasons, -18 and -16 against theoretical best possible time lmao). That means I'll contact the runners shortly to ask for video proof of their run or something close to the time they're supposed to have, and if they can't provide that/don't reply within a month or so we'll remove those times. :)

Done. :)

You can do the old route (Pidgey strats, PP strats or no manip deathfly strats all work ; I got a 19:20 with Pidgey strats on 3DS), but the newer ones with manips won't work. The only "problem" with the old route is that the best time you can go for is a high 16:xx, so if you want a competitive time you might consider learning the newest route on emulator ;)

I have a Red PB on 3DSVC (1:55:45), but that's without manip (that's also a personal choice).

I think Nintentalks712 had found a Red VC Nido manip a while ago, but now he's nowhere to be found, and noone else bothered looking for 3DS manips, because very few people actually run these games on it, and you would have to find these manips manually since there's no way to emulate 3DSVC and make a bot do that work for you.

If you don't want your run to get rejected then just make the game sound audible :)

Of course ! Actually, this is already what most runners play on (GBP on the leaderboards, for GameBoy Player), since it's the only alternative to DS for recording GBA gameplay on console :)

Dude are you aware that posting 3 or 4 consecutive messages in 2 topics in less than a hour, with little to no information within, is extremely annoying ? Do you know there's a Edit button that lets you magically modify your posts ?

Also, do you know that noone ever names a trick after a random dumbass who "discovered" it at a time when it was already known for years ? For real though, I don't get how you can even hope to be taken seriously when you consider naming the trick after you as a due when the post directly before yours states that the same thing happened 6 years back. I mean, if right in the middle of a maths conference, I start yelling "hey listen I just found that you always have A²=B²+C² in a right triangle, can you at least name that after me ?", everyone's gonna be like "Who's this idiot, can someone kick him out ?". This is exactly the reaction I've had when I read your posts, and I'm pretty sure that I'm far from being the only one.

"Can we add a new category I'm probably the only one to run on that popular speedgame ?" No.

If other people are interested, nothing prevents you from making an unofficial leaderboard somewhere else, though.

Idk, for example if extremely skilled players can't come close to the time even after hundreds of recorded attempts ? (20+ seconds gap for a 1 Cup run)

I was just throwing a thought there, it hasn't been discussed or anything, but it's pretty much common sense that if a run is proven fake, it can't stay on the leaderboards, let alone 1st place.

These WRs are old runs, validated before video requirement for 1st place was a thing, so we let them there :)

Of course, it they're proven to be fake, they'll be deleted, but it's not the case at the moment.

Just wanting to know if you could check whether other topics answer the question you want to ask before making a new one.

Also yeah, banned until testing proves it doesn't lower load times (spoiler : it does). And NTR is definitely not the only alternative to crappy quality, you could, idk, spend a bit of time thinking about a way to make a decent recording setup ?

We'll already have 30+ categories, most of them divided in 6 subcategories, if all of the changes I suggested happen, so doubling that just for button controls is a big no. What we could do, though, is what they do on the Forbidden Memories leaderboard for RNG manip ( https://www.speedrun.com/yugiohfm ) : have a "Controls" option in the run submission menu, show it on the leaderboard, and have both runs show up for people that have a stylus PB and a buttons PB (look for GFC's runs on the FM leaderboard if you don't understand).

Thanks for your answers DarQ_Massacres ! Replying to your post now :upside_down:

• What about All Levels tho
• If you really want to keep 100% ILs, IGT is pretty dumb, since, unlike any%, you can use Freeze Time and get a 0:00 in every puzzle. What about RTA timing from level select to "last mission validated" ? :)
• "Double Any%". Completing an area in either Standard or Alt World is enough to unlock next area on both, and no routing would be required (which was my main point for 200%), so unlike 200% it'd just be Any% + Alt World Any% with no changes at all, and I don't think that's worth a separate category.
• In conclusion, if I got it right, for 100% I can go in whatever order I want, and you'd be ok with murals, Alt-World any/100, and 200% ? If yes, please mod me so that I can add these already ^^

You can run the game on 3DS (3DSVC is in the possible platforms list), but manips that work on console and emulator won't work on 3DS.

Mods have a life. And it's explicitly written, when you submit a run, that approval may take several weeks. Can you be patient, please ?

There are a bunch of different topics I'd like to discuss here, so... Let's get started ?

• 100% Areas rules clarification

A few days ago, we were routing 100% for the first Areas with qwertylool, and we noticed that the rules were quite unclear, especially about whether you have to respect some kind of puzzle order in the area (past Area 01, we can't really talk about an order since there are always puzzles that are out of the way to the next area) or if you could do the puzzles in whatever order you want. That might not seem very important, but it determines how you can plan your support Pokémon route, and that can cause major differences and time saves/losses. So, do we have to go to the end of the area first by following some kind of any% path, then complete the other puzzles, or can we go for whatever order we like ? (Timing rules should be changed to "timing starts at "Start!" on the first puzzle, and ends when the last mission is validated on the last puzzle" no matter what)

• What's the point of 100% ILs ?

I don't remember when or why 100% ILs were added, but I don't really see how they can be considered relevant. You just complete the level but you have to do a bunch of extra random useless stuff. Unlike for Areas in which you always add extra levels compared to Any% (except for 01), I don't think that's enough to justify another category. Plus, the rules for them are the exact same as 100% Areas, so even if someone wanted do 100% IL runs (they would be first since there is currently no validated 100% IL run), they would have no indication for the timing (IGT/RTA, start and end if RTA) !

• "All Levels" Area runs

That might seem incoherent with what I said for 100% ILs, but I think we should add an All Levels category for Area runs (except 01) and full-game runs. That means you would complete every puzzle in the Area/game without bothering with missions. I think that would be a good "halfway point" between Any% and 100% that, imo, are way too different from each other.

• Alt World categories

As you may or may not know, Alt World levels have different missions, and especially, different LEVEL ORDERS from their Standard counterparts. And different level order often means puzzles that were "optional" in Standard become mandatory in Alt World. So, since the required puzzles in an alt world area are often different from its standard equivalent, I think adding Alt World any% would be a good idea for full game and areas that differ from standard ; also, with missions being entirely different, Alt World 100% should become a thing too, once again for both full game and area runs.

• Areas 200% ?

With the Alt World differences explained above, and given how much of a challenge the routing for an Area 100% run is, I'd also love to have 200% categories for Areas. Routing these should be a lot of fun, and even if completing the same puzzle twice in the same run might not sound great, I still think that could be a nice addition as the "ultimate" Area category. (I didn't mention full game because noone has been enough of a madman to do a full-game 100% yet, so full-game 200% is probably not worth adding atm)

• Murals

Please ?

• The End

Yes, it's finally over. Congrats on reaching the end of this long ass post, thanks for reading, and let me know your thoughts about all of this :)

PS : Mods, if we agree on all or part of these changes, please give me mod, I'll do everything myself and "resign" afterwards ^^

Probably not, since it's Gambatte and not Gambatte-speedrun, and the only allowed emulator is the very last release of Gambatte-speedrun specifically

I think that's 17 frames after the up input for the last step is taken into account. (maybe 16, I'm not sure) You have to press Start during that last step to have the menu pop up. As far as I know, the trainer will immediately spot you once you're completely on the tile in front of him.