New categories (ik here we go again)
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7 years ago
Spain

Actually, I like the four ideas.

Idea 1: 31 Star If the original game has it, why not the remake?

Idea 2: 3 Star Even though it seems TAS only, we could try it. I mean, SMW 0 Exits was originally a TAS only.

Idea 4: 120 Star I really like that one, because of skipping all of the secret stars, bowser's red coins, stupid rabbit RNG, etc.

Idea 4: 100% Why not? That would be only adding the rabbits and they do a lot in this game for a casual playthrough so a 100% is very good.

I don't expect neither these categories to be added but sure that would be good.

Also, can we delete the 149? I don't see it too much fun. I aso find the BiDW and BitFS categories a bit boring, at least Fire Sea. Dark World it's better for a shorter run without glitches.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
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Esperanto

31 star doesn't really make any sense seeing as you would be allowing 1 rabbit clip but not the other (also we would be allowing the harder one but not the easier one, which makes even less sense).

3 star would be ok if it were humanly possible. After talking with the person who TASed that skip I really really doubt it is (you can't get the rabbit close enough to the wall to do the clip in the same way as the other 2 rabbit clips, there's no delayed jumps after falling off ledges in the lobby which makes OoB movement extremely difficult in itself, and there's no ledges that you can stand for more than a frame to do line ups and stuff). Of course if someone wants to prove me wrong (and I would be pretty excited if someone could) it could be added, but I don't think it will, so there's no point adding a category that will never have a run on it.

120 star is kinda arbitrary but a somewhat interesting idea. If people actually want to run it then I wouldn't see a problem with adding it to the misc categories.

For 100%, does catching the rabbits really add anything? Personally It seems really pointless to me, and then you could also say things like "didn't open all cannons, not 100%, or didn't get max coins in each level, not 100%".

149 kind of has a place there, even though there aren't runs up. It is 150 star without the RNG. It's the best way to get good at 150 star really. Why waste 20 minutes each run on something that is not developing your skill at all?

The BitDW and BitFS categories came from races on SRL. They have as many runners as the main categories so why would it make sense to remove them? They are a good taster for people interested in getting into the game.

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France

Could you please link the active 3 star TAS instead of the obsolete one ? I've been working on it so I would want to stop that people still link the old TAS.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
France

I'm going to reply to the ideas now.

31 star : Doesn't make any sense adding it to SM64DS due to the rabbit clips imo. 30 star wouldn't make any sense neither though, since you would need to clip behind DDD even though you have 30 star (what's the point of collecting 30 stars then ?)

3 star : I don't think it would be possible to build up a setup for catching the rabbit in the right position, since it's litteraly TAS-only for this rabbit, because he's too far to the wall. Even if we were able to do it, what then ? We would need to clip behind the rabbit by jumping behind him and talking. Normal clip is already hard, but jumping clip is more harder than any other hard trick in the whole game. What if we are able to clip behind him ? We need to jump or we fall. We need to land on the floor without coming back into the room. There's barely enough floor to land on. And we cannot STAND on it, since there's no floor collision there. And there aren't any textures for the main hall, but the skip requires very precise placements. And reaching the loading zone of the door is harder than it looks. It not just like you longjump into it and gg.

120 star : Tbh i don't find this one weird, it could actually be good since it skips rabbit RNG and some annoying secret stars (like the moat)

100% : In EVERY Parallel Universes I had travelled, not any cork box told be that this category is useful. Seriously, why catching all the rabbits ? It's annoying and it has no point in the game progression. You could also say 100% open all cannons, get all max coins, having 100 lives, all the useless stuff in the game. By the way, refering to the progression of the game, 150 star IS 100%.

See you there from the 8th PU of BBH map.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Colorado, USA

The reason the rabbits aren't collected in 150 is that the rabbits give you minigames for the Rec Room. The Rec Room data is shared between files once you acquire it, so it doesn't go away until you delete all save data on the opening screen. There is also the fact that the Korean version of this game has removed these minigames and their rabbits. As such, 150 star is a better working definition as it is a viable goal for all the versions of the game, whereas "150 star + all minigame rabbits" does not.

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Baltimore, MD, USA

120 star is a good idea

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I personally think their should be a category where you have to unlock all of the characters.

Imaproshaman likes this
Baltimore, MD, USA

I have a nice meme idea- get every star with every character. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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