On the back of the Exo revelation that's come about lately, a PSA: Please, please don't cheat.
6 years ago
England

Cheating is bad. Really, really bad.

Look, if you know that you can get a time in a game, or even think you "deserve" that time, I understand the temptation to cheat. Why sit through thousands more resets if the game's just not giving it to you, right?

But the thing is, as this case has shown, you will NOT get away with it forever, and you will never be trusted in the same way again. Getting a WR or a super optimised time is an incredibly tempting goal, but it's just as much about the journey as the destination. Part of what makes having those times feel as good as they do is the amount of work you needed to put in to get them. You'll experience very little satisfaction in passing off a cheated or spliced run as genuine, and if your game's community has even a bit of activity, it's very likely that at some point someone will look at your fake run closer and catch you out.

Just don't do it, alright?

Aureus_Lunae, Quivico and 6 others like this
California, USA

Kinda sad that this needs to be a reminder. It should be common sense to those who speedrun or do any hobby.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Quivico, blueYOSHI and 3 others like this
England

To be fair, NOWADAYS there is potentially a lot to be gained by cheating. If you somehow had a way to consistently cheat and fly under the radar whilst doing so, you could stand to gain a lot of popularity as a 'top' runner of a popular game, and potentially a lot of money.

In a way, that's KIND of what happened with Mergy in Forbidden Memories. He used a modified ISO and denied it for ages. It's not like any big bucks ever came out of that, but just substitute that for if it was one of the top OoT runners, or SM64 runners. There would be an unholy shitstorm, and rightly so.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
West Sussex, England

I think cheating should be boycotted, personally. Cheats strip themselves of respect and dignity, and tarnish the legit when they themselves did nothing wrong.

Valhalla

If you're gonna cheat at least do it in something that will make you money. Like cycling or cs:go. I mean cmon.

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Victoria, Australia
stoot
He/Him, They/Them
6 years ago

I don't think anything more needs to be done to punish cheaters, IceShadow. Cheating is pretty much the ultimate sin in the eyes of the speedrunning community. A former friend of mine got caught cheating and he needed to shut down all his social media accounts due to death threats and abuse.

Washington, USA
EmeraldAly
She/Her, They/Them
6 years ago

Yeah, cheaters should be shu.....wait, death threats ???? Yeah, that's never okay.

New South Wales, Australia

death threats from cheating???? thank god im not living in melbourne

Edited by the author 6 years ago
North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

Where the fucking hell does your friend live? @klashik

Valhalla

You don't need to live in any particular area to get death threats/abused online

Valhalla

Just don't look at it, just like turn off your screen haha walk away

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West Sussex, England

I'm sorry to hear that he received death threats and abuse over it, nothing warrants that in any community. It's just that cheating takes away from the sport of it, and it turns people off. Then again so does toxic behaviour in a community. Aside from that though, I do believe that people should get second and third chances, and I wish him well.

Aberdeen, Scotland

Well shit....

https://www.speedrun.com/run/mk4g0n3y

(on a serious note, dont cheat, its pretty shitty to be cheating and have people look up to a cheated run under the false claim that it was legit)

Edited by the author 6 years ago
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