Apollo legend channel
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7 years ago
France
xDrHellx
He/Him, It/Its
7 years ago

wut

AndreaRovenski likes this
England

Would be better if he didn't almost exclusively do OoT/SM64 content. I've brought that point up a few times, get consistently ignored.

unkownspeedrunner, Granolant and 4 others like this
Antarctica

30Cents, you're actually incorrect.

He is a former speedrunner and used to hold a WR in OOT's.

Months ago he "deleted his former self" and re-branded himself as Apollo Legend. So, actually, he does know what he is talking about and he has a decent background in the speedrunning community.

Like/agree with his points or not, he does in fact have a history with speedrunning.

Pennsylvania, USA

I like this guys channel and his ideas are very innovative, we absolutely need more content creators and a better platform to race other people

Granolant likes this
New Jersey, USA

@zewing

When you say a "better platform to race", are you talking about SRL? Do you mind explaining what you feel are the drawbacks of SRL? I've never heard anyone mention their thoughts about SRL, so I'm curious what you think, if that's what you were talking about.

Pennsylvania, USA

Well the main drawback is the use of IRC, it's an outdated way of communication amongst communities now that discord is a thing.

Discord itself is a major upgrade since many discord servers have race channels. If there was some way to connect the Discord API or something to another site, it'd be really based. l

So basically when I say better platform, I just mean an update to conform with the new means of communication, SRL still gets the job done but there's nothing wrong with improving a system

kobepilgrim likes this
England

tfw he called it quits due to nearly-universal negative reception.

Turns out that taking the content of others, monetizing it without their permission and then publicly trashing them isn't looked upon very well.

Antarctica

A streamer owns the content they stream to their Twitch channel so, agree with the DMCA or not, he was indeed in his right to do it. Apollo just ripped the video exactly as it was, he didn't transform it in anyway to make it fair use. And the fact that he was monetizing off of it while just directly ripping it also put him in the wrong.

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HowDenKing likes this
Antarctica

@FurryWulfz

But BBoy streaming the game with commentary, camera, w/e gives him the rights to that specific content. You're right, he doesn't own the entire rights to Super Mario, but he does own rights to the specific video he created by streaming it on Twitch. That is where the issue is. BBoy didn't copyright claim Apollo because Apollo used Super Mario footage, he copyright claimed him because he used the specific footage he owns (his highlight of himself streaming the game). He didn't gain full ownership of the footage because at the root of it, Nintendo still owns Super Mario, but BBoy owns "BBoy playing Super Mario". Twitch VODs are not public domain, they are content owned by whatever streamer created them, so Apollo can't just rip highlights and upload them to YouTube and start to monetize them just because the content is of a game ultimately owned by some game company - he still has to respect the rights of the person who created that content of the game.

By your logic, I can take my friend's LP of Super Mario, upload it to my own channel without altering it in any way, and they don't have the right to claim me for it. That is flawed logic. My friend may not own Super Mario, but he does own the content he created by playing Super Mario and transforming it into his LP and would therefore be in his right to claim it. Just like BBoy did.

And an anecdote to that, Nintendo doesn't seize full ownership of all Nintendo clips, there are plenty of people who upload LPs or whatever of Nintendo games and don't get any claims against them/keep all revenue from it. It's only very specific clips or clips that were not altered enough that end up getting completely seized.

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