Revisiting the categories after the patch ?
3 years ago
Scotland

Hi all,

I know the previous thread has been locked, but I am assuming the boards will be reset once the patch arrives, so I personally think another look at the categories is in order.

Having now played pretty much every character at every difficulty, I have a few thoughts on the matter and I wonder if anyone feels the same or if we are happy as it is:

  1. The amount of categories and possible removal of some.

We have over 100 main categories. It is understandable, but it seems a bit silly if we want to get SOR4 taken more seriously amongst speedrunners.

Easy should obviously stay, as should Mania. Personally I think that Hardest is different enough to warrant staying too. Hard I think should be dropped. Normal I think we can all 100% agree is a pointless category. Boss Rush is its own beast.

If we got rid of Normal and Hard, which are basically identical to Easy except a bit more annoying, we'd find ourselves with 68 Single Player categories (17 characters, Easy/Hardest/Mania/Boss Rush) which seems a much more sensible number imo and would encourage people to run more categories I think.

  1. Why are the retro characters still under "Misc"?

I can understand why it was decided upon prior to the games release, but surely all the characters should be on the main boards now. Shiva, Max and Skate especially hold their own, and it just looks frankly weird.

At the moment the SOR4 characters are divided by character then difficulty.

But the retro characters are divided by difficulty then character.

I think when/if we reset the boards we should move all the characters to the front page, then clicking each character separates by difficulty.

Again I think it would make it more obvious to newer runners what the various categories are, and would promote more optimisation of all the characters, for instance Shiva at the moment is the fastest run which we should be promoting as the pinnacle of our game, yet the only sub 40 characters (Shiva and Max) are hidden behind THREE menus. It doesn't make sense as an advert for the speed of our game.

Those are my thoughts on it, for what they are worth.

  • Promote all of the characters to the main page.
  • Reduce the categories to Easy, Hardest, Mania, Boss Rush.
  • All 2 Player games can go to Misc.

I don't know if anyone else has a desire to see the boards revamped (I know there have been murmurings of 100%/Deathless/Score Attack amongst others) but I thought I'd put my opinion out there and see what the community thinks would help see the game grow.

Peace :)

England

I'm happy with the way it is. I think keeping all difficulties is a good thing for the game. Over 700 runs done already, game isn't even 4 months old. Speedrunners don't need encouraging. This isn't fat camp telling people to stop eating yoghurt because of the extra calories. Less categories = the best runners destroy those categories even faster, actually would discourage other new runners in my opinion. Promoting 3lodz as the pinnacle of sor4? That's the funniest thing I've read in a while. Well as long as oxygen continues to exist, that's never happening. OOS #MIGHTYGANG

ckellyspeedruns likes this
Michigan, USA

Normal is not a pointless category, the main leaderboard has more Normal runs than Mania for every character. An argument could be made for Hard, but definitely not Normal.