Sonic 3 & Knuckles
6 years ago
Languedoc-Roussillon, France

Hi,

I have checking for different speedrun category on Sonic 3 & Knuckles, but i have not found this category:

"Sonic + Tails / All Emeralds / Glitchless"

Some reasons for that?

I want to try speedrun and submit my best time, but don't know if it's possible

Thanks for yours reply

(Sorry for my poor english, i'm french)

Scotland

https://www.speedrun.com/s3k they have an all emerald mode, might be better to ask there as they will know why things are the way they are :)

England

This query was answered by another moderator in the game's forum, Uematsufreak. Pasting the answer here for clarity:

"The reason we don't have glitchless boards is hard to quickly yet thoroughly explain. There are two main reasons. Firstly, it's harder to define what is and isn't a glitch in this game than is apparent. Multiple discussions on the matter have come up for years, and they all lead to extremely difficult (and sometimes outright confusing) questions to figure an answer for regarding a ruleset for such a category. Secondly, there's the argument that it's very easy to accidentally trigger small zips and other random oddities in this game, which could invalidate a glitchless run and lead to many dumb resets.

If I were in your position, I would go ahead and run Sonic & Tails All Emeralds Glitchless and go ahead and submit the time under the "Sonic All Emeralds" category as it would be a valid run for that category (as long as there are no inputs made on the second controller.) Then if, in the future, the glitchless conundrum does somehow get solved, the interest is there, and the board does end up being made, you could submit runs to that board at that time, as well.

It can be an unfortunate situation, but it is one that is much harder to tackle than it seems. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask."

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