time format / rules
6 years ago
Japan

you know this game shows millisecond in result screen but IL lacks that. This should be fixed imo.

And as we talked about rules in other place yesterday, I'm totally fine with changing current rule and remove my pause strat records.

United States

yeah, we can change that rule for sure, it's better for runs.

and yeah, we can also show milliseconds, good idea

Pennsylvania, USA

Alright guys I think it's fair to say that while IGT is better for individual level, pause strat should not be allowed. I know dialogue is annoying but if a strategy is slower irl by this much, it isn't really speedrunning per-se. Unless there is any serious objection, I will be removing all the runs that used pausing to manipulate the IGT.

Texas, USA

I totally did not even consider pause-dialogue-skips for IGT, even for DW and SW. What a conundrum we have here, gents. How do we proceed?

EDIT: I personally think the concept of IGT is better, even while considering pause-skips, since it makes it fair. 'Anyone' can pause skip. Not everyone is sharing the same load-times depending on hardware, or sets of items that could affect menuing.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Pennsylvania, USA

Are you referring to full-game runs? Cus I still think we should just not allow clock manipulation with pause-skips. That way we could use IGT pretty easily for individual levels at least.

Full-game is a little more difficult so I'm not sure there. I don't see a great way to reconcile that. I am a slave to the community tho, so whatever we think is best.

Finland

For full game I think RTA is the best option. For individual levels, probably IGT, although there are some caveats.

One possible compromise would be to ban Save + Quit in IL runs. It would be slightly arbitrary but it would make for more fun runs.

Pause-skipping is a little bit lame, but it might be a necessary evil with IL runs in this game. Banning pausing altogether might be a bit too radical, not to mention such a rule might not gel at all with other Warriors-games out there.

Edit: as a side note, would it be possible to add milliseconds to the run listing?

Edited by the author 4 years ago
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Pennsylvania, USA

I'm not sure what other games do, but I don't think there would be any reason to pause the game in IL except for pause-skipping.

I just think it's kinda lame if an IL takes 10 minutes to do, but the IGT says 50 seconds. But I won't make any rule changes right now, especially cus it looks like just us three care and you two are in favor of a no-ban.

Side note, do you guys know what the most popular Warrior games are for running rn? I was also thinking about running SW 1 and 2 on emulator, along with this game. Next week I will finally be back with my xbox.

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