xTHEFIZHx I just checked the exact time from the start of the mission to the completion it's exactly 59.1

The ingame timer probably start even before you can do anything

It's not really random, the ingames time always add 1-2 seconds to the final time no matter the mission. My 1 minute Solo mission is actually a 59 Seconds if you use a external timer.

We were getting consistent dark zone transition with a certain strat, but yeah rng can definitely shave 10 to 15 Seconds in this mission regarding the servitors spawn and minotaurs pattern but most of the big Speedruns has bigger rng part in it. You just have to deal with it.

SRL Will obviously be back, like Festival of the lost.

Thing is, most of people think it's broken because one guy is salty AF on it, but I'v been using it for quite some time now and I can tell you that this is not broken at all.

It's a minor advantage, one seconds gain if it's optimal which most of the situation aren't. In a big mission like dark beyond where I used it like 5 times the only time where I gained that 1 seconds is at the beginning, the rest is just confort that you can replace with being smart and pre spawning sparrow while turning or being in the air. But yeah some people prefer to cry over the helmet instead of being smart.

Do I really have to beat my own time(dark beyond) without the helmet to prove you guys that this is a minor advantage ? Because If I did and wasted my time because in the end you would still cry over it, why should I even bother.

Banning the helmet would remove so much fun and creativity, to found new strat/route. (Like this : http://imgur.com/3css7xO ) Let's take the definition of "Speedrun"

"A speedrun is a play-through (or a recording thereof) of a video game performed with the intention of completing a goal as fast as possible"

Separating or removing a element of the game that isn't even a glitch or even a exploit is the exact opposite of this definition.

We only have two viable options here, either we keep this SRL Category and merge it when SRL comes back in December or we just do like Fallout 3 Speedrun does with the "SRL" badge because this small advantage is really not worth separating.

Also why do you guys make a category for Solo SRL, and not Duo and Fireteam if we listen to the no sense of some people, this helmet could save 1000 seconds on restoration so why would you separate solo and not the others categories.

Not fair at all.

First, it's ScaRdrow. Then you are just complaining about it because you don't have SRL gear and you are salty about it.

You could just take someone else account who has SRL Gear but no you want to get those easy 1st places by denying my runs Saying that I gain 6second out of that is delusional.

The dark beyond Run had a really bad time with the wrong Sparrow and wrong Strat, so obviously I was able to get that time difference. (Which is 10Seconds not 15, maths are not your thing) I could get 3:00 without the helmet and 2:55 with another strat without helmet but I get it, you don't want to search new strat or be faster you just want to remove all my World Records so YOU can be on all of them.

The "movement" thing with the 0.950 is true but it doesn't give you 2 seconds, 1.0 to 1.5 maximum, and like I said the only real time the fast enter is usefull on that run is the beginning, the others times you can easily lose NO TIMES if you just pre spawn the sparrow. After the 3rd ship is the same, especially if you use a low sens. Pre Spawning and turning is the same time as popping the sparrow and turning it, you can even get stuck on the rocks because the direction is really weird when you do it

All of my records can be beaten without the helmet.

What I want is having fun Speedrunning with the fastest gear possible, what you are doing is denying all my runs just because of a 1 seconds gear.

Please don't compare a big Speedrun Community to Destiny's I can count the numbers of Missions Speedrunners on the fingers of my hand

Stop being salty like that, if you want to run with the helmet just get a friend account.

Like I said, if it would of gave me more than 2 Seconds I wouldn't have minded. It's only 0.950 Seconds !!

Zecora, all of my runs are out of the main leaderboard for one piece of gear who gave me 0.950sec. No one want to use a filter, especially not a spectator. If it stay that way, you'll lose many Speedrunners including me. (You obviously don't care)

Let's have the same boring routes for every missions and no originality, and obviously restrict the fun stuff and original route/strat like that :

http://imgur.com/3css7xO This route isn't even faster, but it's FUN.

I timed the exact spawn delay, which is 0.950 for a run. Downside to having instant spawn is the direction you are facing, at the start getting the good direction is hard when you have a instant spawn, whereas the 0.950 second give you time to have the perfect direction.

When they nerfed the Sparrow in 2.1, that was totally legitimate to separate the Ranks because you could have a 5 to 15 Seconds differences.

But for a 0.950 sec difference it's just ridiculous.

Hey guys, here is my opinion on this SRL Gear.

The speedrun community is already almost dead in destiny if you split times it won't help the Speedrun Community , instead it'll collapse

I used some SRL gear that only gave me roughly 0.8 second per run, I did a 2:59 on the "Dark Beyond" with a 11 seconds lead compared to the 2nd and when I checked the main leaderboard I only see a 3:10, so I have to enter the actual mission and click on "SRL Gear YES" did you guys seriously made this ?

You can add a "SRL" badge to my runs if you want but removing my times from the main leaderboard is not fair at all

Everyone can have SRL gear if they really want to, if you don't already have SRL GEar it'll problably come back in december 2016 and if you absolulty want to have it now, you can borrow a friend account.

Having SRL Gear bring cool strategy/routes and more fun to each run, should you also split the times if people doesn't have a good sparrow or the right gear ?

I mean, what's the point of Speedrunning if I can't even use the fastest gear I have. It's not even a glitch or a exploit.

How fair is it, for people who have SRL Gear and invested times into those Speedruns ?

People saying "SRL Gear" gave you the WR or it's impossible to beat are just wrong, the helmet give something like 0.8second at the beginning, even in a run like The Dark Beyond it's the same.

I have a 2:59, you can add 0.8 to the time I could even get the same time if my 2:59 is 2:59 000 When I use my Sparrow after the 2nd ghost, If I had no SRL Gear I would just pre charge my Sparrow in the air and that's the exact same time.

You can always improve your time if you found the right strategy or if you improve your run mechanics

We should regroup this Speedrun community instead of splitting it.