The first one that was suggested to me is a perfect clear category in which the runner is tasked with completely emptying the matrix. I do think that such a category might work, but I do not like it that much due to it being so short. So alongside that I would suggest a ~5 clear category, in which the runner must do a full clear a total of ~5 times in one run, that way the category would be much longer and put more emphasis on being able to do a perfect clear consistently. Though this way the category would be much harder to run.

What are your thoughts? Would you run a perfect clear category? Would you prefer for it to be more pithy experience with 3-5 clears instead of 1, or would a short concise category like that not bother you at all?

This thread is ment to be a place for everyone to suggest new category additions to the leaderboard, as well as any talk relating to those.

Any suggestions that will gather 4 or more people willing to run it, will be added to the board.

Today I've added a paragraph in the mouse categories allowing the use of a singular keyboard key for the hold function instead of doing it with the right mouse button.

I understand why some of you might not like this change, and I personally don't really like it as well, but there's a good reason for it. There really is no reliable way to verify whether or not a runner uses a keyboard at all during mouse runs, due to there not being a function to disable those. The only sure solution would be to require every mouse runner to film their entire setup, which would furtherly turn off anyone from running those categories.

Due to that, while I do not think it matches well with the spirit of the category, I did allow the use of the keyboard for holding.

If anybody has further thoughts on this subject, please do not hesitate to mention them in this thread.

Thanks for adding those cats. I don't think that 20/40L are very good since they're so short, but 100L no hold is very cool. Could you also add 100L cheese race no hold and maybe remove the 20/40L? I think 100L and 100L cheese race are the only cats that really deserve such a category.

Categories shouldn't be added based on how difficult it is to submit a run to them, but rather how different of an experience it isto run them. If someone is good enough running 40L and 0 finesse 40L is identical, whilst the better someone is the more different 40L and No Hold 40L is, since the more experienced players use holding much more and restricting it is a major gamechanger. I think that 0 finesse categories do not make much sense and shouldn't be implemented, whilst No Hold is different enough to warrant at least 1 category.

On speedrun.com it is against the site rules to have a high score category on a leaderboard, but it might be possible to set up an excel spreadsheet and link it in the forums instead. Though I don't know how many people would care to submit a run to it, or how many would even notice it.

Other than that? I think we have quite a nice variation, maybe some of the more popular/complex maps (possibly as IL's)? But nothing that's necessary I would say.

Sprint, cheese races, survival, big block, pentomino whatever. Not saying every category should have a no hold variant, but at least 2 or 3 of the most popular ones.

No hold.

Thanks to extensive feedback from afnannen the categories are now set up as is. I believe that this is a quite good way to have the leaderboard setup, but if anybody has further suggestions, then I still will gladly hear'em out. Whether it has to do with the category setup or the rules.

Changes all around to every facet of the leaderboard.

Categories: Any% will just focus on the 8 main levels, the Limited version will still be present. But the Challenges are a problem. They aren't a part of the main game and therefore are not a part of Any%, but having an entirely separate category that is just Any% + Challenges doesn't feel very fitting since that and Any% will be almost identical. I do not know how to resolve this. Please do speak up and tell me you own opinion on how this should be handled. Whether there should be a 100% category that is almost identical to Any% or whether such category should be miscellaneous or if only Challenges could be a category. Any thoughts are welcome.

Rules: I am going to rewrite the rules to IL's and Full-game categories to make them more clear in their intent, especially Limited.

Runs: I have deleted all of my runs leaving only 1 run of afnannen. I am going to submit runs with times better than those deleted ones.

IL's: Challenge IL's added, any future IL submissions will be submitted with miliseconds. The timing method changed to start the time upon clicking the level icon instead of the "start game" in the main menu. That one afnannen run was retimed to reflect that.

Please do not hesitate to mention any ideas, complaints, questions and comments you might have about those changes. I want to make this leaderboard the best it can be, and leaving feedback is the best way to make that happen.

Thank you for taking your time to read the aformentioned changes.

It has been decided that mobile runs will be present on the leaderboard as miscellaneous categories, and new ones are going to get added when runs are submitted to them. If you want to run a mobile category that doesn't exist yet like 100 Lines (Mobile), submit your run in this thread, and it'll get added.

We have decide to add 10 Lines (Mobile) as a miscalenous category, with the other categories getting their mobile versions as runs get submitted to them. And if they get popular enough, we'll move them to a completely separate board.

I'll talk it through with the other mod. I don't want for mobile gamers to be at a disadvantage, but I don't want to add 2 new subcategories of swipe and smart, that will never be thoroughly run by more than two people. For now, I added Mobile as a playable platform, and I'll verify your run after the situation is resolved.

I've never heard of this game being on mobile, could you elaborate on that a bit? Mainly talking about the possible version differences. If it is just the same game but adapted to mobile then it can be added, definitely.

I really like no hold and I think that one more category of it could be fun. 300K points level 1 start no hold. Would any of you be interested in trying it? I won't add it if I would be the only one to run it.

OK, I've just applied all the changes I proposed to the leaderboards. But still, if anyone thinks that some of those aren't warranted or necesarry, do not hesitate to mention that. Those are still up for debate.

Also: @MusicLovin I think separating the two options is a good idea, but doing it in subcategories would be more fitting. I am sure that using the mouse brings better results, so this way the keyboard players wouldn't be disadvantaged.

So as far as I understand the setup might look something like the following:

10 lines 40 lines 100 lines 250 lines 300K 300K level 1 start 100 lines no hold

Depending on the popularity of the categories some would be removed, and a keyboard/mouse subcategories for every cat can be decided by a community opinion/vote of some sort. I like the idea of that. Wondering what others's input is about this.

Thanks for rectifying that, but something had to go wrong since those runs aren't on the leaderboard anymore. As far as I know mods editing run variables shouldn't send them back to verification or delete them. Is that a bug?

I have a number of suggestions on what categories I think could look like.

1. There may be categories with mouse controls. Considering how much of a game changer it is, I think it's fair to separate runs using it, with runs using key controls by making them subcategories.
2. There may be categories with no holding, where you cannot use the hold button at any point during the run.
3. I think that a 10 lines category is pointless, and way too short to feel good to speedrun. I would suggest a more standard spread of 100 lines being the main category, 40 lines being a sprint category and 250 being a marathon category.
4. I do not see the point of having a level 1 start separate category for 100 lines, considering the existence of hard dropping in this game. And I do not understand why there is no such distinction for 300K, since itd oes affect the gameplay, I think it might be worth while to include it, and delete the dupe category of 100 lines level 1 start.

I do have proof of concepts for all of the potential categories I mentioned. Though I will not submit them to the leaderboards yet until the changes I proposed will be either implemented or shut down.

1. 300K with mouse WR (lv 20 start)
2. 100 lines with mouse no holding WR
3. 250 lines with mouse