I feel like people have had unnecessary issues with the music box so after writing down solutions and coming up with the fewest possible cursor moves i came up with this.

Number the wheels 1 to 5

12345

move 3 to 1. 1 to 2. 2 to 4. 4 to 5. Play.

8 moves, friend on controller did the puzzle in around 2 seconds and its as simpel as Pick up number 3 and keep it until the end.

If you get the Futon spawn you can see angie if she goes into the foyer, if you dont see her enter on the left side during the animation, then shes outside the elevator.

As for finding her in the living room if you hear a gasp as soon as you enter shes next to the futon, if not then shes in the back corner.

These are my observations at least and if you get angie in the back corner of the living room then its true 50-50

Happy Running

NG+ Casual with OOB got a 1:37.39 with some messups and i still needed to unlock the rocket pistol, infinite ammo for it and the Stakes infinite ammo. Progress!

So i'm not sure if this is the best place to put this but me and a friend have been experimenting with this OOB.

We have managed to load other areas using different methods. Some places are almost always loaded like the elevator to House Beneviento, the elevator to the reservoir, the tunnel where you meet the hag and get the first winged key, the space under the Chalice Platform, the river bank with the entrance to the riverbank secret and depending on which of these you access, the crossroads where Duke hangs out.

When going to House Beneviento the game soft locks after completing the film puzzle and a few cutscenes dont trigger at all. The reservoir doesn't have enemies spawning and when you use the boat key, it eats it and wont play the cutscene thus soft locking.

we managed to walk above the corridor where you get the first winged key by throwing a pipe bomb up and getting knocked down over the terrain. Getting the key without spawning the miranda cutscene lets you load the ceremony area, Duke is left floating because his cart is not loaded and is actually back outside the castle, and none of the doors have the winged effigies or locks on them, leading to another softlock.

So far we have not managed to load the factory BUT once or twice when we loaded the ceremony area we found that the chalice podium in the center was interactable and asking for the chalice.

Side Note: Because we are trying out of bounds and skipping most of the game, we wouldnt need the mask of sorrow and the iron insignia key, you could meet duke, that gives you the restart point, enter the castle, open the door and do the Out of Bounds. If we found other ways to do this in other areas we could in theory visit load triggers to activate the other triggers we would need.

Side Note 2: If we can trigger the Dukes cutscene where he reveals what the flask is, it may just give us the first flask? been testing this possibility too.

On the topic of the Dojo, It can be pretty difficult unless you complete Sensei's story line, she becomes the assistant instructor and takes care of most of the challengers while your out doing side missions and main events. Without sensei.. well you can get in a 2 on 1 situation where one guy has a shotgun! "Fun"

Agreed. I would just drop 100% since i'm doing a casual play through to prep for NG+. It is not that fun especially when it comes to weapon parts i'm trying to get.

If you dont have a 100% save i would recommend working towards a good weapon and maxing out a style if you are doing NG+

I second this, any new categories would be welcome and ive been thinking about categories that would and wouldn't work. For example don't wish 100% on anyone not even my worst enemy but something like New Game Max out the Dojo, The various endings, killing off the main characters like Moro, Akagi and JJ across multiple playthroughs as a single run. I also thought that instead of all endings it could be a faster category to do All Ranks/Titles.

Id love to hear more suggestions and see more people running this game!