"Well, always testing the rules I see..." Are you serious?? You really think I've to lose time here because the rules aren't enough clear? And not my fault if this edit is much better than the current one... Hope you'll retire this stupid off-topic sentence...

There should be a rule modification in my opinion, because there's no unfair advantage to use it... Something like "You can /use a standard kart edited by/mod a standard kart with/ a 3D or 2D software if the hitbox, the speed and the character stay the same." What is unfair or not logic here?

Also you have to trust speedrunners because there are too much ways to cheat...

Yeah indeed I'll put it in standard karts, seems more logic. And I hope the another mod will agree :D .

I would like to use Pidgin' edit by Crystal (https://online.supertuxkart.net/addons.php?type=karts&name=pidgin--2020-edit-) in my runs, allowed or not? The hitbox and the speed are the same.

(Here is the whole conversation to be more precise)

Crystal' answer :

Checkline exploit fixed. You can wait for the official update or download it here : https://online.supertuxkart.net/dl/18373946385ec91f6eabdba.zip Thanks to Typhon306.

Hi There's another good add-on track released 2 days ago : Racetrack remake Some screenshots here : This is a (too) short track (a little longer than math class but shorter than mod circuit), but there are good graphics and a fun gameplay. The respawn works very well and it should be difficult to find a shortcut here (there's still a checkline exploit however, I asked for fixes and of course don't include a broken version :P ). Also the off-road works ;) . Btw for Add-Ons 1.2/2.0 I think this track should replace Beam Runner in story mode. I'm waiting for your opinions on it.

Well this checkline glitch is very different from the others. If it's what you mean the off-road is fixed with the "Disabled in time-trial mode". I believe it's only possible to finish without the checkline glitch... in reverse lol. I think this checkline glitch is not really a glitch... or a "normal" glitch :).

As for Beehive that's really weird, maybe we should ask Rubberduck to know if there's something special here. As for the 3 ticks faster it's similar to the checkline bug of Frozen Drive. I don't understand why it should be removed because it happens to everyone.

About the checkline glitch in Frozen Drive, it's not possible to avoid the last checkline (which is on the lap line) so the runs shouldn't be retimed in my opinion.

Well it seems Andet likes Subsea, and this track is better than shiny suburbs in my opinion. But the track needs a big upgrade because 1 minute/lap with "only" glass tunnels is just boring a lot. I'm not sure if it's possible but someone should remove a part to make the track shorter. Also there are too much nitro and zippers. And removing some zippers should fix some physics problems.

For Mod circuit I believe the next updates are just graphics updates, maybe @skindoormimiz can confirm ?

For nitro island Indeed there's still a shortcut. Me and mimiz use it online. For subsea, I don't really like it and there's no way that this track comes back in the main game. I'll not ask for more fixes personally. For mod circuit, I suggest that for the mod, not for me. It's not my mod. I can speedrun mod circuit without the mod. Mod circuit is just : -much better than racetrack -featured Add-On -current most played Add-On (online) So I'm not sure to be the only one who like it :P

Lol I didn't see Fouks' answer. Mimiz is fixing the hill, it takes so much time, this track can definitely be included in the mod in my opinion. Nitro included in boxes won't be a problem because we'll run the track only in time trial. For the skip it must be very difficult if possible to save time with it. Mimiz took and takes time to fix the hill, I think it's rude to not include it. The track is only fixed because I made a request.

Nevermind Mimiz fixed subsea ! @Fouks can now includes two new tracks in the mod :D

Well nitro island is fixed by Benau, Mimiz gave up for subsea because it seems b3d is very difficult to handle. I think even with physic bugs Subsea can be included in the mod... As I said some official tracks has also weird physic bugs. For Mod circuit we have to wait a little :)

You maybe noticed that peertube.co.uk doesn't work currently. I (really) think the runs (that use peertube.co.uk for the video) should stay because these runs have already been checked. I have only an addon run on peertube.co.uk I think, but it can be a bigger problem for @Fouks. I hope it will works again, if not, maybe we'll have to search another peertube' instance :/ (and re-submit the runs). I hope also Fouks has the related runs saved on his computer. (and also his TAS :P)

Btw small information from mimiz : ok I saw that I think it's funny to go over the rail, so I'll keep it like it is now

So I assume there's no skip but I'll check again

So for Subsea there's still a .blend here http://svn.code.sf.net/p/supertuxkart/code/media/trunk/tracks/subsea2/ so I hope Mimiz will be able to fix the track. For Mod circuit, I talk about the possible skip to mimiz and he answered to me : I don't know about checklines but if you can give me example I'll update the 4 may I think (I will send him a video) and according to Crystal, Mimiz will fix the hill. So a big thanks to Mimiz :) For nitro island, I just know that Benau said "soon". And is @theodorepringle still interested by including amazonian journey ? If yes, someone will have to fix the checklines. For Powder rush GumballForAPenny said : I will probably extend the track soon, making the current track into lap 1. Speedrunners be warned!

Well for the off-road it's intented (). Indeed, I also noticed that you can go below the road. But I think if this ramp is fixed this will not be a problem. For this possible skip I'm surprised, I'll ask Mimiz to fix it. As for the bananas it's maybe because they aren't in the original version...

Finally the hill will probably be fixed :)

For mod circuit, Crystal plans a visual improvement but nothing that will affect the gameplay.