It appears this thread would only be for requesting moderator but it's not, on the contact page they redirect you to this thread if you have complaints about a game's moderators, so his comment being in this thread is valid.

Yeah I had read, just weird how after they were removed you can see that it took an existing pages place by entering in already taken page URLs.

Even weirder that the pages now redirect to other things than what they had before, what is goin' on lol

Really strange because this random game seemed to be approved today and its literally nothing but a meme page: https://www.speedrun.com/noahkiq/

Already went over the information in the post and the video, from an outside perspective it does not appear to be conclusive evidence of anything but being lucky. Without context it is also hard to believe the reasoning behind noting his behavior. There are many things to warrant a ban from a community but the leaderboard is for tracking times, the only thing that should be omitted from the leaderboard would ideally be runs that don't follow rules and guidelines for the category they are submitting to. I completely understand privacy and why someone wouldn't want something private known on the internet, but the removal of his times and his speedruns aren't private, and it's just more and more sounding like an issue you have with his behavior than his run being cheated.

If the only thing he is really guilty of here is bad behavior then say that, it'd be better than going in an endless circle of requesting evidence of cheating and then the only evidence that anyone has seemed to mention at all is evidence about his behavior in private chats, and the mention that he's modded his game files at one point in time, despite me saying many times that admitting to have once modded files in a game does not equate to using them in all runs of the game he has ever submitted. The further I go with this the more questionable it gets and the answers I'm receiving do not address the main points of the argument I'm making for Planet's case.

I didn't ignore that and mentioned in my very first post that it is the reason that you refuse to post any such evidence thus far. It appears you are ignoring my posts instead, other wise you would know I've already acknowledged it in more than just that post. Unless this is different evidence than two screenshots of him admitting to using and sending mod files then there is still literally no basis behind the removal of his times. Also if I only wanted to bring up drama I don't think I would've said that I'd love for this to be resolved to the point where I no longer have to defend this guy from claims of cheating with no apparent evidence, multiple times.

I still have yet to receive a good counter argument for most everything I've brought up, instead it's been responded to with hostility as you have shown again in your post trying to say I'm selfish and immature for just simply asking where is the proof behind this decision?

Responding with hostility is really driving home the point here. Do you have anything to say against my argument or are you just here to ask why I care?

I don't doubt that it took time to make this decision but it still seems like it was handled wrong. If there is no way to proof he cheated it just becomes their word over his word? That doesn't seem logical nor reasonable, he's already submitted a run that he claims is legitimate and it appears legitimate and was verified for almost a year. Now lies the burden of proof on the people claiming the run is cheated.The only reason I care at all about any of this is the thought that this basically destroys the reputation of the person in question, he is no longer trusted in the community because now he is thought to have cheated, but the evidence is never produced. Would you not be upset if the same thing happened to you?

What is appeal to authority. Not being an expert or an authority on something doesn't exclude me from recognizing and talking about it. What more is there to understand? There are screenshots of Planet admitting to have once modified his game and there is a very lucky run being looked at with suspicion that has no evidence behind it being cheated. The only thing I want to see is the definitive proof that he is cheating, nothing else.

Comment was directed towards the other guy about that sorry Lastyns, we caught each other with over lapping posts

If there were examples of hitting this RNG consistently it would be different, getting lucky for one run out of supposedly thousands still isn't conclusive evidence that it had to be cheated.

We both speed run games and we both don't speed run fallout 1 so I guess your opinion is just as worthless as mine based on that merit, which isn't a very good argument to begin with. Quoting the thing about privacy doesn't change the fact that what's been stated is they they have screenshots of him having once modified his game, not screenshots admitting he cheated.

What's mentioned above is that he's sent a file that removed wasteland encounters to one user and then admitted to having installed a mod at one point in time that removes a rat from the beginning of the game. Would you like to point me to the bit of evidence where Planet admits he submitted cheated runs? Because that hasn't been stated by anyone yet, which means those screenshots you are talking about mean nothing to the validity of his run.. It doesn't take a genius or an expert to look at a case and see that it's full of accusations and literally 0 evidence to back it up. Again, the only thing going for this is messages that he at one point modified his game, and doesn't mean his runs are necessarily affected by said modifications. Other than that the entire situation seems like speculation, and appears wrong on how it was reacted to without proper evidence. Like I said I would love to be convinced he's a cheater so I can stop defending him but thus far nothing has been able to convince me other wise.

Immediately following that line in the same paragraph: "We are unsure of if PLANET used the modified map in his runs, but the rat is only visible in one of his runs that we have seen. All of his other runs have him running very close to where the rat should spawn but the rat is not visible. Please note that it is possible that the rat walked northwest of its spawn spot to not aggro from him and was out of range of his character so it was not visible". That is not conclusive evidence that it is used in his runs, and one can easily imagine reasons why someone could possibly have had the mod installed at one point in time, i.e. practicing, especially if it's as detrimental to a run as it's made out to be.

It's just that, lots of suspicion doesn't make a run illegitimate, the evidence that proves the run is illegitimate is what makes it illegitimate. There is nothing close that points to evidence of this, and the only thing being offered at all as evidence is that there is an email where he admitted to have at one point installed a mod and another where he just sent the file itself, neither of which is evidence that they are used in his submitted runs.

I'm still not convinced on the situation of this run being removed. Mods over on reddit locked the thread so responding here for a bit more permanency. The biggest problem I still have with all of this is that the entire main body of the argument that Planet cheated his runs are, things that can happen but are just unlikely. Let's break this down paragraph by paragraph and see how much of the argument is comprised of "not impossible but not likely".

-First paragraph talks about inappropriate behavior first as if it's the utmost reason his run got removed, followed by his runs being suspected of being cheated. -Second paragraph states Planet sent a file to another user that was a mod that reduces the chance to get wasteland encounters. Following this it states that while none of Planet's run had wasteland encounters, it was not abnormal to see runs like this, presumably because the game is 4 minutes long and grinding out RNG is practically required for a good run. -Third paragraph comes with Planet admitting that he had at one point installed a mod to remove a rat from the cave, but is quickly followed with a statement that says while unlikely, there are circumstances where this too can occur naturally without mods. Ended with a note about RNG despite it being a 4 minute run and nearly entirely based on it. -Fourth paragraph claims he is suspected of having a mod for lowering damage done by laser doors in the military base, but that you cannot be certain that he did. Also mentions that there is no audio meaning it could've easily been spliced, but the mods believe that it is not spliced.

Every single paragraph is "suspected of this, but reasons why it all can legitimately happen". This is where you are normally supposed to hold suspicions until you can produce evidence of the cheating but this is still yet to be seen. It doesn't look good or convincing when your post is full of "We are unsure of if Planet used this" and "we are not certain that he did" and then there is 0 evidence behind any of it to be seen either. You keep saying you cannot produce evidence because it apparently all lies in private chat logs and that it would be a breach of privacy to share it, this further just makes it sound like the evidence against him cheating isn't very strong to back up these claims. The only true basis of the argument is that all this RNG is unlikely, but if you're running thousands of attempts at this 4 minute long game, you will eventually find those runs with all the right RNG to make it a world record run.

To conclude, if there is factual evidence of cheating that warrants a removal of his times, please post it. I would love to see the situation solved by either not being convinced with the evidence produced and to continue defending his run, or by being convinced he is actually a cheater and stop defending him. I could care less about some random cheater, but all of this, to me, points to a run falsely accused of cheating just on grounds of suspicion.

If your video gets muted for copyright music they actually have features on youtube to remove just the copyright music and leave game sounds intact, kind of useful if you have a recording that doesn't have audio split up or what ever.

Going to jump in here and say I watched the video out of curiosity's sake and even with frame by frame analysis couldn't see anything fishy so I made a post to defend youtubeman and the mods pretty much just immediately moved to wanting to delete my posts and ban me. They won't provide proof of cheating and even deny simple proof that disproves every claim they can make, doesn't really seem like good moderation is taking place on the page.

One frame before, and now one frame after. This is easily verifiable by using simple tools built into the youtube video player.

You can watch the video frame by frame lad... they all start at the same exact frame.