An often overlooked aspect in Wii/WiiU speedrunning is how menuing can be impacted by how inputs are done. In many games on these consoles, it doesn't just count the initial input press of the button when you menu, but also the release of the input to complete the action. This can sometimes allow the benefit of a single, well-timed input over mashing through a menu.

There is also the idea of version differences, language differences, console versions, etc.... All that good stuff.

I haven't heard from @WillRec20 and I haven't found a better solution to the audio issue, so I'd say resubmit the run.

If it becomes a contested category, then it'll probably have to go back to audio+video required.

You're absolutely correct that the game audio cuts out under normal capture circumstances and your previous run + @GamingLand 's other tabletop runs do not have audio during the gameplay yet they were accepted as runs in the absence of other comparable runs.

However, one of the most reliable ways to verify a run is through audio and it may not be an easy fix for most people. The part that makes this difficult is that your claim is beating the WR set by @WillRec20 who had audio during the whole gameplay.

So in that case...

Paging @WillRec20 or anyone else who may know:

What is the best way to have audio recorded for this? If it's not easily attainable, we may have to go on the honour system and allow an exception for audio for GamePad categories. My apologies in advance @Wipeoutjack7 , but if we can't find the easy fix, we'll use your new WR's.

@GamingLand I have thought about this before, but the idea behind "All Party Games Aside from the One That Doesn't Fit Into Speedrunning" seemed arbitrary. If others want this specifically, I'd be open to introducing the category.

Just another note; with any run in Wii Party U or any other party genre video game speedrun, beating the CPU is needed for a run to be considered completing the game as fast as possible. In this case, you would have to beat the CPU's in each TV Party game.

Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree should be fine.

However, Rhythm Heaven Fever isn't a Touch! Generations game.

Many people have been asking about the rules surrounding this leaderboard. I'll address a few things so I don't have to copy and paste each time.

Also, if you have any other questions related to the leaderboard or the game in general, feel free to ask it here!

Q: Is a video required to submit a run?

A: Yes

Q: Do I need to have controller footage to submit a run?

A: Yes for the Intentional sub-category. No for the Not Intentional sub-category.

Q: I don't have a way to film a controller cam though. Why is this needed?

A: Mainly, there is a controller calibration exploit that allows the player to use the balance board in multiple ways aside from the way instructed by the game (for example: using your hands instead of feet) potentially making the game easier. This leaderboard Intentional sub-category is strictly for the intended control method of the game with proof.

Q: I can't submit controller footage, so what do I do?

EDITED A: Due to an increased interest, a "Not Intended" sub-category has been added to the full leaderboard for people who can't submit controller footage.

Q: I don't want to show controller footage because <insert reason here>

A: Not a question, but something I've heard before. You can send me verification footage over Discord/Twitch/Twitter or you can attach another link to verification when you submit your run that can be deleted before verifying the run (don't forgot to request it though!). If you can't do this, please refer to the question above.

That's all for now!

Sept. 29, 2019 Edit: "Not Intentional" sub-category has been added!

@Wipeoutjack7 , I have considered limiting each TV Party subcategory to 3 opponents.

While the Opponent Skill Level does not change the core mechanics of the game, something like the Number of Opponents changes the game on a fundamental level. With time, if no one else runs different amount of opponents and there are many 3 Opponent runs, then the chance of limiting it to the 3 Opponent game is possible.

Hey @GamingLand and @Wipeoutjack7 ! Thanks for sharing the run ideas.

Everything you've shown with videos and a bit more have been made into categories, 23 categories to be exact.

TV Party, GamePad Party, and Battle of the Minigames have all been added as header categories with subcategories added for each. GamePad Island, Tabletop Foosball, Animal Matchup, and Puzzle Blockade have been left out as subcategories due to the games being either multiplayer based or set-time games.

Just like with 1 vs. rivals, it is still required to specify the Opponent Skill Level with each submission.

Feel free to submit runs!

Unfortunately, Autoplay does not exist in Wii Party U.

Thanks for sharing a run idea, @GamingLand !

1 vs. Rivals has been added as a category with you vs. 3 CPU's. It can be done on any opponent skill level, but you must specify/show what skill level the CPU's are set to. Also, games can be played in any particular order as long as all 14 are done.

Feel free to submit a run!

@Wipeoutjack7

For now, TV Party game categories (with the exception on GamePad Island for co-op runs) won't be added. I included a new blurb explaining the rationale behind it in the original post and 1 vs. Rivals games being a potential category.

Hey folks, just making a main thread to handle posts relating to the run categories.

The categories made for this game were intentionally streamlined to keep the game competitive with fewer categories. I've looked into making other categories such as Highway Rollers, The Balldozer, Mii Fashion Plaza, Team Building, Battle of the Minigames, Tabletop Tournament, etc. However, the only one that makes an appropriate speedrun category is Dojo Domination for regular, 1-player minigames.

Dojo Domination is a concise representation of the All Play minigames without unnecessary elements of RNG that come with TV Party games or the luck-based minigames (Hide-and-Go-Beak and Run to the Sun). Also, in theory, there could be 30+ categories that could come from TV Party games including all 5 difficulties that the game offers. Dojo Domination takes away the unnecessary RNG and excessive categories making way for one competitive category.

This does leave a few possible categories: Co-op Games, 1 vs. Rivals (from Minigame Collection) and Tabletop Games. Namely with things like Gamepad Island and Water Runner for co-op, and Tabletop Gauntlet's Time Attack mode. If you have runs put together for these potential categories (Including, but not limited to the categories I've already mentioned) with a solid set of rules, please submit to this thread as you would with a regular game submission to speedrun.com.

Thanks!

EDIT: Demolition Row has been added as a category on Feb. 19, 2018. EDIT 2: Added a blurb on why TV Party games are not included at the current time on Mar. 29, 2018. EDIT 3: 1 vs. Rivals has been added as a category on May 14, 2018. EDIT 4: TV Party, Battle of the Minigames, and GamePad Party have all been added as header categories on June 27th, 2018.

Hey guys, my apologies for the late reply, I'll get alerts for forum posts from now on.

The categories made for this game were intentionally streamlined to keep the game competitive with fewer categories. I've looked into making other categories such as Highway Rollers, The Balldozer, Team Building, Battle of the Minigames, Tabletop Tournament, etc. However, the only one that makes an appropriate speedrun category is Dojo Domination for regular, 1-player minigames.

This does leave two possible categories: Co-op Games and Tabletop Games. Namely with things like Gamepad Island and Water Runner for co-op, and Tabletop Gauntlet's Time Attack mode. If you have runs put together for these potential categories with a solid set of rules, please submit a thread to this forum as you would with a regular game submission to speedrun.com.

EDIT: A sticky has been added for potential run category submissions

2-player games are progressively unlocked (you need to play them as a 1-player game first) which makes it a bit awkward as it's own category. It could be a part of a 100% category, but at that point you're just splitting hairs.

Edit: Just to clarify what I mean by "splitting hairs". All Perfects is already a ~4 hour run and adding the 2-player medals would add ~16 minutes to make it 100%