United StatesI tried to contact 'wappon' the current WR holder but no response. Both of their WR videos are gone and unfortunately that means they have to be removed.
I dont want to erase history though so I thought I would at least document them here.
These runs were legitimate and they were the world record times when set. I personally watched the entire runs and verified them both. That said, video proof is necessary for ongoing rankings on leaderboards.
I hope some day that these videos resurface but for now they only live on in this thread :(
Any% English Patch - 2:54:20 Played on Sega Game Gear ᴇᴍᴜ on 2020-08-18
Submitted by wappon on 2020-08-17, 11:47
Any% - 2:39:40 Played on Sega Game Gear ᴇᴍᴜ on 2020-08-19
Submitted by wappon on 2020-08-19, 10:50
Wappon was the player who took this run to the next level. I worry there may be more data loss if not acted upon soon so if I dont hear back from wappon I plan on saving their walkthrough and adding it to this page's guides section. I will seek permission first, but my plan is to grab it soon just in case anyways.
Please be sure to properly archive your runs players! This stinks to have to do to a champion and Im sorry.
Hi,
I've heard a lot of talk about people being interested in the console version of this run and maybe some talk of people taking the emulator versions of the run less seriously. I dont see a need to debate; I think each run has its place.
The biggest issue I personally run into is when I reset on my ancient console it takes about 10 seconds longer to re-enter the game when compared to emulator runs. This happens across any different emulator I've used and beyond that my console itself will vary in its initial load time upon reset and can take anywhere from 40 to 50 seconds depending on....idk just how it feels like loading after being a console for over 25 years.
At this point Sega CD is starting to get a bit rough to run on. Mine makes big popping noises when entering new load areas sometimes (especially iluk and that area of the game). I dont think these issues will get less pronounced over time.
That said, I think runs on the actual hardware are pretty important. In fact I'm planning to take my next WR on console (if I can swing it). But I believe that will be the last WR (I can personally get) while running on console; after which I should be able to beat that run fairly easily on my next successful emu run.
So! My plan is to create a misc board that tracks console runs specifically as it would break my heart to run on console and get a new WR just to crush it instantly because of emu advantage after and have it disappear from the boards.
I'm not going to move any runs off of the normal leaderboard, im just going to create a misc board to keep the console runs visible for posterity.
Im willing to hear any POVs from the community on this and look forward to any responses! Thanks.
Nick
Okay... a year later and the rules have been posted haha.
I talked to holysmith and did a lot of thinking on what made the most sense.
I wanted to include stuff like using anything with a unique graphic/sound effect but...I realized no games do that in their 100% categories. That would be like trying to track every new unique dialogue that happens to all npcs throughout the game or something.
Anyways, here it is. Wish me luck. First run is finally actually happening within the next 4-5 weeks!
*Can be played on any version of the official release
Beat the game
Defeat all optional bosses (IE: Extra vile tribe members)
Defeat (at least) 1 of each enemy
View all optional video and audio cutscenes (including 1 victory in blackjack minigame)
Open all chests
Obtain 1 of each optional item, weapon and piece of armor
Gain all available magic for all characters (including Luna)
Obtain all warp-points
What is the policy on runs without videos? It looks like WR in normal ng+ doesnt have a video of their run. It seems like it was there at one point but is deleted now.
Ok edit -
These would be any%, new game + (good ending) and any%, new game + (bad ending), I think. That would keep them as simple and traditional as possible.
That means there's a normal (bad ending) category too in theory (as long as it still shows the hi score screen).
Either way it still would end at the input that brings up the high score screen.
Thoughts? Seems right to me.
Long story short we have an
Any% new game + (because of other saves used) AnD Any% (bad ending)
Okay. First off, amazing work. Congrats on the find.
The way I see it is we can step back from thinking about the loads so much and look at it from a perspective of what traditional category these can fall under.
These both show an end screen. With your score tallied. Okay I'm running late actually I'll finish this thought in a bit. Lol my b
That's a real good question. I've never delved into dosbox too much but seems like it's runtime is based on your personal pc. Oh well.
Until people care a whole bunch or someone figures stuff out further I'm gonna just say it's all the same. If you're running dosbox that's what everyone else used too.
If anyone is super interested in digging into the minutia feel free though. For now it all stands as legit imo
That's a real good question. I've never delved into dosbox too much but seems like it's runtime is based on your personal pc. Oh well.
Until people care a whole bunch or someone figures stuff out further I'm gonna just say it's all the same. If you're running dosbox that's what everyone else used too.
If anyone is super interested in digging into the minutia feel free though. For now it all stands as legit imo
I had brought this idea up with dbcade but since there has been so much activity here I thought we could ask the community.
I have a few pacifist runs that ive completed. Pacifist as in no attacking/no damaging your opponents.
I think its a really fun and interesting way to play the game. Ill post my pb below if you want to see what a run looks like.
I just would like it to even be a misc category. I think it deserves a spot on the boards; what do you think?
I thought my youtube VODs were trimmed pretty well personally. Unless you're worried about maybe a 3 second lead in I thought they were all clean, lmk of any specific ones that aren't trimmed well. I tried to start right at the options menu or the title screen within reason.
I think the PAL NTSC thing is a bit over my level of research. If a PAL runner can indeed not get WR though I'd say splitting the boars in some way is fair.
I think either Any% or Very Easy 1 Round should be default.
I also think people shouldn't be setting their own HP above 100% for normal categories but no one seemed to mind. That said I think Gaia/Sho use should be allowed on any runs if we consider we allow the specials remapped to the shoulder buttons on lower difficulties.
Those are my 2 cents, sorry I didnt read absolutely everything but tried to catch up.
Either way, nice to chat with the other runners! Hi all!
Good catch IMO
I think any time that triggers the end screen should win. If you can figure out a way not to trigger Sho then it would be quicker so do that. I planned on losing once on Normal mode to dodge Sho for an any% Normal run if I got back to it. That said maybe we make a beat Sho% too? Tyler if you say you're dodging Sho on Hard an VHard Im not too sure on the mechanism though
Sho appeared any time after I beat the game on Hard or Very Hard. I think the only stipulation is he shows on Normal with no continues used but happened any time I got past Gaia. Maybe Gaia never beat me? Not sure id have to look at my runs.
Hoping to be added to Battle Arena Toshinden (ps1) moderation. Current mod mods over 100 other titles, is games sole mod, has been online several times since I sent in my speedruns and though they're within the window IN THIS CASE I've submitted a dozen pending runs and there are about 10 more to go. I don't think dbcade should have to verify 22 runs solo when he has over 100 other games to look at. Thanks.
Lunar Legend's sole moderator has been inactive for 1 year. I have spoken with (let's just say) another world-class Lunar games runner and was told runs are being ignored. Attempted to contact golden and obviously no response. Please add me as a moderator for lunar legend. I am current WR holder for lunar 1, created its leaderboard and the one for lunar samposuru gakuen and moderate 10 or so other games. Thanks in advance.
Right. My run is. But the run that beat mine has since disappeared.
Hi, i had wr in any% no ring ng+ royal for a few months but then lost it a few months ago. Now i have it back. Just wondering where the other run went and maybe if there was a way for me to be able to tell without a post like this id liketo know that too. No rush. Thanks.
