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NathanOreilly8 years ago

Some previous post about this skip has been made. People tried to replicate it without success.

Anyway if this happens to more people maybe there is a workable method to get that skip working. Bug or not this should not be accepted without clear how-to reproducing. (speaking for myself)

NathanOreilly8 years ago

lots of sequence and possibility has been tested with this oob.

This will not work because of locking next quest.

The only possible use i see (with no quest locking) , it's when you are in lucas building to be able to pass the test room and get directly to jack final boss.

Anyway, i've tested SO MANY way to go oob in this area without any chance.

NathanOreilly8 years ago

Hello Riut, Thanks for the feedback, yeah locked hard, good job capcom ! (seriously, this is a nice work of quest tracking)

Idk if this is the same in MH mode(should be), but for the red key card. The TV is not working even if you didn't take the key and just unlock the door.

But, the video will work IF

  • You unlock grandma bedroom
  • Activate the clock's for undertrap access. (so doing all the normal stuff) The video will not work IF
  • You take red key card before the two step above.

So this mean you can unlock the door in basement without taking the card, but the lucas video will be only playable if you trigger the two snake door and grandma bedroom.

Again, this is not a game saving strategy ... you only skip one visit in the basement but you take more time to go oob than rather doing the official way.

NathanOreilly8 years ago

Quick update, still trying stuff on my side.

... Still nothing exploitable.... the whole thing seems to be really runners proof...

My last attempts was dedicated to trigger the teleportation on the boat map after mia/zoe choice. Trigger is not yet enabled as expected.

There is still hope anyway because sometimes with a good vertical positionning you're still oob but you can trigger event as the game consider you're in the good room. Stairs seems to be the key (for oob) and for up:down positionning. The good news is : i still found new route in oob, so maybe 1 day we can route all the baker house in oob until jack chainsaw fight who put you back in a normal state. (when playing the animation) I was able (1time only) to put lion head in the door when i was oob but this one seems to be pixel perfect. This is also true for gaining the dissection room key from inside the fridge without opening the 2 other fridge.

The key indicator for the game to consider you're on the good room (mid level) is to see enemies being triggered by our presence. If this is the case, triggers at your level will be operable. So in a pixel perfect up/down positionning you should be able to complete baker house almost in free cam.

I will focus on the third part game now with lucas testing room. You need to watch the VHS tape to enable this zone.

As this level is more horizontal than baker house and has possibility to manage up:down positionning, getting oob can help to go trough wall and still trigger event as the digipass, the battery and the elevator.(>animation so going to normal state).

We should try to go oob in the first stairs of lucas's testing room. Trying with explosives maybe ? I'm confident of finding other OOB, as show by the mines OOB posted earlier, others should be possible.

The game is only 2 week old ...

NathanOreilly8 years ago

Hi again,

Moreover, to share content :

  • getting in oob the left arm after the lantern door will trigger the animated sequence and put Ethan into the creepy little room. So you will be stuck becauce the traps is closed

  • the Travis fridge will not be operable without the eagle puzzle (already stated, just confirmed here)

  • getting to the blue card room (last shadow puzzle) will not be activable. (i'm not sure of what is activating this switch, but anyway you will lock the lucas tape if you get the blue keycard before getting through the normal way(snake key)

  • jack chainsaw seems to be immunated to fire grenade launcher. (Perhaps, 1 starting neuro round can earn you one boss "red head" before he's getting the chainsaw.

  • You can grab the chainsaw in OOB but you will relocated on the room(locked)

  • The old house door is not openable if you don't answer the call

  • You can trigger the grandma bedroom 10:15 in OOB but this is useless.

  • You can go in the garden and unlock the back door from behind. But marguerite will not show up after. (P2)

  • You can respawn in lucas test room (lots of place) but the code will not work.

  • The notes on deadbody for the digipass will not be readable without getting the video tape before.

In a "best setup", you can certainly :

  • get the grenade launcher -- In the same process/layer grab the old clock stuff in the entry hall.
  • respawn at oob's entry location (still oob)
  • get the scorpion key (+ unlock the door in the basement)
  • open the red hand friged and samatha fridge.

Several location can help to re-enter the game once in oob. but too large to enumerate and useless atm.

but combining all of these is hard as the texture (and wall) displaying is some sort of performance randomization. The oob process himself seems to be working on the stair because

  • this on a stairs (mid stairs)
  • there is a gap between internal and external wall.(with not hard texture on the external wall)
  • Jack grab you and put you back.

for what i get guess, the next quest will be locked.

For example : Assume you go the the last room before fighting Jack final boss AND you get the arm AND the head in your inventory AND you've watched the last room tape before using a last time the crank. You still will be blocked because you have not completing the previous objectives....

Combining these informations, I've tried to get oob in : first stairs, with breakable wall or later with others monsters on the same stair in the entry hall. (when you come back from the snake key), nothing worked.

Plus,

  • I've notify than Jack when he's "dead faking" in the entry hall, will move you from some pixel when he wake up. I guess this can be useful to bring jack where we want and try to oob in another place. But the baker house seems pretty "quest locked"

  • For MadHouse, getting the grenade launcher OR collecting dirty coin for a quick magnum is still interesting.

Hope someone will find another oob later in the game. (Maybe with remote bomb, ladders, etc?)

NathanOreilly8 years ago

Hello,

Thanks for the share or trying ! was trying since the last 2 days to get something working with this oob ...

I can grab the grenade launcher early, this can help on madhouse purpose i guess (fighthing boss) IMO this is the only possible use of this glitch at the moment.

  • Getting the red key card will not trigger the video tape in lucas's test room. So you will be stuck again. (I've tried to get the grenade launcher and respawn under grandmad bedroom)

  • Also, not getting the red key card and just unlocking the door to exit (for dissection room) will also softlock the game at video tape level.

  • This is also true for the crank and/or the scorpion key. If you don't get the scorpion key with the crank after the first bridge is up, Marguerite will not show up when you put the scorpion key and perhaps you will not be able to get the light(lantern) ...

I've tested lots of things ... Still interesting ...

Did someone know the meaning on the "secret" lower room indicating the 4 numbers ? I've tried to use it at the digipass without success. maybe a dev testing...

Did someone want the grenade launcher method ? (precise pattern for map loading) On normal, the whole thing take around 1,30m if well executed and can save lot of time on Jack chainsaw and Marguerite P2

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