I've been hearing about a controversial strat: you can set your save file to read-only and then overflow the donation machine on every segment of a multi-character run. It won't record the fact that you overflowed, so on each new run it automatically starts at 999 again.

Some people have been using this in runs, and some others don't think it should be allowed.

If there's a consensus that it should not be allowed, then I think the cleanest solution is to ban donation machine overflow in multi-character runs. (like, why would you even want to do it if it's removing your ability to bomb for coins on subsequent runs) We could also just say "you're not allowed to do this read-only save file trick", since that's a weird external modification to game data that isn't meant to be modified that way.

If there's a consensus that it should be allowed, then everyone can start using this strat I guess.

Post in this thread with your thoughts, please.

it's also completely repairable. if a time is bad, it gets removed, and there is no damage. it's not a big deal.

you need a fully unlocked file for all the categories that anybody runs. you can get one in the "resources" section over on the left. it includes a readme with installation instructions.

after you do that, pretty much just play the game and try to go fast. you can learn what all the items do by playing and watching others.

the most important advice for playing is Don't Get Hit

what's the problem

This is a good idea so I added it

I made a new category called "1 char seeded" and moved it there. I remember rexmoreop used to do that category as well; he had a 3m01s time or something like that, but I couldn't find a vod when I searched just now

if you get at least three people to do runs of it with a consistent ruleset, i'll put the category up.

I put up 7/11/13 char, with 11 defined as "all the characters but lost and keeper" based on those being basically troll characters. That's what yama asked for and it made sense to me, since the whole point of having a difference between 10 and 11 in rebirth was that the lost is a troll character, right?

I've heard that there's been some substantial disagreement though, that some people would rather have 11 exclude lilith and keeper because they're the ones that are new in afterbirth. That doesn't really make sense to me but if a majority of runners want it that way then it will be so.

Please give your thoughts and votes

It's not clear whether we are timing by when the chest falls or when you get in the chest. I think most of the videos are currently timed by getting in the chest, but on srl, boiler, and balls of steel we always timed by when the chest falls. I think maybe we should re-time all the videos based on when the chest falls. Any thoughts?